So what does it fix, just wondering having just installed it

I thought it was going to fix the USB plug/unplug issue.... well, it didn't on my computer. Plugged in my 5TB USB 3 drive and PS disappeared.

Also, I think performance? I did some tests and it is faster!

I haven't hammered the patch yet, but have started with 4K 422 10bit 24P. I even has ProRes 422 HQ, 24P 185Mb/s with screen ratio 2048x1080.

And it's far more usable than PS24, which I've deleted from my computer. IF they produce another patch, I might reinstall it. But for the "here and now", PS23 is solid and PS25 looks to be heading in that direction. 

Cheers Tony, hopefully I'll have some video to play with on it next week

If you have 24, load up a project, trim it down a bit so you can do a render test.

For timeline rendering, you have to have Optimization set to "0" and make sure you delete Rendered files.

Then turn the Optimization to 100 and start the stopwatch. Then Export. 

Do the same thing in PS25. 

Ok Martin... here is the patch list.

Clarify usage for RedEye correction
Mavic drone video jerks/jumps in exported file
Transitions and effects added from closed "stack" are No Preset, not default setting 
Rendering very slow in 24.1, ok in earlier 24 or in 23. Need hotfix for 24 
External preview goes black during editing
Timeline+Export render speed comparison, 25 vs 24.1 vs 23.2
PS crashes when open older project or load old *.psmask file, then switch to Mask tab
Clips from DJI drone have frame drop in export, wrongly detected for Same as Timeline
Pan and Zoom Animated is not working, if opened with context menu 
Color Picker: gradient overwrites solid (not a regression)
Color Picker: eliminate Apply step
Effects, change border color doesn't work
Trimming a gap was possible in 23, but no longer in 24.1 or 25
When a tooltip is the same text as a button, don't display it
Two reports of force-restart during installation
Open Pan and Zoom from timeline context menu, opens legacy editor
Mask: when no track exists above, cannot drag clip mask up to create a track mask
Split Screen: three drawn zones will always display right to left, but zones are left to right
Properties: allow 400% for size
Mask: 200% or more, try to erase will remove mask
Solid color sample images for PS
Title background fill - keep aspect setting change doesn't display in icon
Request: percentage setting for LUT
High resolution photo, PnZ scrub fails, tab may vanish
Save shortcut: 3 clicks should select all text
Delete photo from Library, PS is unresponsive for 25 seconds
After play-pause, BGr does not resume
Noise Reduction: explaining text can be cut off, in some monitor settings.
Background rendering is stalled, on AMD Ryzen PC
8K clips from Samsung S21 have red thumbnails and black preview, on Ryzen PC
Scene Detection controls for Dazzle Import, are missing in PS25
Mask: feather only works if detect edge is enabled
Mask: after detect, Replace and Auto-Advance buttons are missing
Mask: after detect, handles box may appear, preventing editing mask outside of box
After Scaling->Fill, can't trim photo anymore
Reported: Scorefitter/Smartsound song name not shown in tooltip 
Disc Menu text can't be edited in the Preview window 
Clip trimming limited, displayed duration wrong 
Mask: double-click on clip mask, opens Properties
Mask: Below track 3, can't go from Track Mask to Clip Mask
Mask: example clips where smart object mask doesn't work, in Low, Medium, or High
Mask: detect again should ignore previous result
Transition: rate one preset and will apply to all, since PS24
Library gets stuck, won't refresh at switching bins
PS crashes after some timeline editing
Mask:  add Modify button to Face masking
Mask: improve the position of the face related buttons
Mask:  freehand and wand are disabled
Mask:  recognize the face in the second video, the previous video is analyzed
5.1:  Reset doesn't work, sets random values
Color Wheel, Gain UI in wrong position
Title:  when special characters present, text box selection doesn't select as expected
MCC: installation files remain
Red thumbnails in Library, were okay in 25.0.1
Mask: should remember last mask tool state, when select again
Edit some NewBlue transitions, PS crashes
Much slower export of titles in PS25 
French translation correction, 5.1 Front / Rear
PS crashes during editing project with noise reduction
PnZ view trimmed more of asset than expected
Overlays: rename solid colors category
"Roxio Setup Log" in C: root, after 243
HEVC export fails on system with newer Intel graphic drivers
Mask: Track all Frames
After undo few steps, pink line is removed from clip, but effect editor shows effect still applied
Mask: deleted shape is displayed in preview
Support new animated titles
Timeline scrubber jumps to an unselected clip when doing Time Remapping keyframing
"Show Grid" tooltip as single line
Can’t edit title text after switching tabs 
PS audio is muted after after change NR parameters 
Stabilize has stopped working 
Mask: when open a PS24 mask project, the Algorithm dropdown box is present
Crash: Select title text, then "Cut" 
Title: context menu "Cut" on single word deletes whole line, but Ctrl+X, Del or Backspace works fine

MyDVD multi-language integration 

Tony P:

Ok Martin... here is the patch list.

Clarify usage for RedEye correction
Mavic drone video jerks/jumps in exported file
Transitions and effects added from closed "stack" are No Preset, not default setting 
Rendering very slow in 24.1, ok in earlier 24 or in 23. Need hotfix for 24 
External preview goes black during editing
Timeline+Export render speed comparison, 25 vs 24.1 vs 23.2
PS crashes when open older project or load old *.psmask file, then switch to Mask tab
Clips from DJI drone have frame drop in export, wrongly detected for Same as Timeline
Pan and Zoom Animated is not working, if opened with context menu 
Color Picker: gradient overwrites solid (not a regression)
Color Picker: eliminate Apply step
Effects, change border color doesn't work (Beta 0768)
Trimming a gap was possible in 23, but no longer in 24.1 or 25
When a tooltip is the same text as a button, don't display it
Two reports of force-restart during installation
Open Pan and Zoom from timeline context menu, opens legacy editor
Mask: when no track exists above, cannot drag clip mask up to create a track mask
Split Screen: three drawn zones will always display right to left, but zones are left to right
Properties: allow 400% for size
Mask: 200% or more, try to erase will remove mask
Solid color sample images for PS
Title background fill - keep aspect setting change doesn't display in icon
Request: percentage setting for LUT
High resolution photo, PnZ scrub fails, tab may vanish
Save shortcut: 3 clicks should select all text
Delete photo from Library, PS is unresponsive for 25 seconds
After play-pause, BGr does not resume
Noise Reduction: explaining text can be cut off, in some monitor settings.
Background rendering is stalled, on AMD Ryzen PC
8K clips from Samsung S21 have red thumbnails and black preview, on Ryzen PC
Scene Detection controls for Dazzle Import, are missing in PS25
Mask: feather only works if detect edge is enabled
Mask: after detect, Replace and Auto-Advance buttons are missing
Mask: after detect, handles box may appear, preventing editing mask outside of box
After Scaling->Fill, can't trim photo anymore
Reported: Scorefitter/Smartsound song name not shown in tooltip 
Disc Menu text can't be edited in the Preview window 
Clip trimming limited, displayed duration wrong 
Mask: double-click on clip mask, opens Properties
Mask: Below track 3, can't go from Track Mask to Clip Mask
Mask: example clips where smart object mask doesn't work, in Low, Medium, or High
Mask: detect again should ignore previous result
Transition: rate one preset and will apply to all, since PS24
Library gets stuck, won't refresh at switching bins
PS crashes after some timeline editing
Mask:  add Modify button to Face masking
Mask: improve the position of the face related buttons
Mask:  freehand and wand are disabled
Mask:  recognize the face in the second video, the previous video is analyzed
5.1:  Reset doesn't work, sets random values
Color Wheel, Gain UI in wrong position
Title:  when special characters present, text box selection doesn't select as expected
MCC: installation files remain
Red thumbnails in Library, were okay in 25.0.1
Mask: should remember last mask tool state, when select again
Edit some NewBlue transitions, PS crashes
Much slower export of titles in PS25 
French translation correction, 5.1 Front / Rear
PS crashes during editing project with noise reduction
PnZ view trimmed more of asset than expected
Overlays: rename solid colors category
"Roxio Setup Log" in C: root, after 243
HEVC export fails on system with newer Intel graphic drivers (Beta 0808)
Mask: Track all Frames
After undo few steps, pink line is removed from clip, but effect editor shows effect still applied
Mask: deleted shape is displayed in preview
Support new animated titles
Timeline scrubber jumps to an unselected clip when doing Time Remapping keyframing
"Show Grid" tooltip as single line
Can’t edit title text after switching tabs 
PS audio is muted after after change NR parameters 
Stabilize has stopped working 
Mask: when open a PS24 mask project, the Algorithm dropdown box is present
Crash: Select title text, then "Cut" 
Title: context menu "Cut" on single word deletes whole line, but Ctrl+X, Del or Backspace works fine

MyDVD multi-language integration 

 

That's quite a list

Yes, quite a list. And I am sure not fully comprehensive either.

A lot of what is posted in the list didn't affect me personally. The Ryzen PC issue I haven't seen (honestly I haven't been editing for a while..other more pressing issues). MyDVD I do not use, I seldom use NBFX transitions, etc. I have noted a performance increase in exporting, nice touch. But I am patient so can wait.

I am sure that those that think that Pinnacle is not fixing anything will have a different understanding now.

Can say that it doesn't fix the issue with a video dropped on the timeline and reversed still does not export.   

Did an export of my last video, and didn't noticed any speed improvement, but looking forward to editing with it, hopefully we'll see some of the benefits there. 

 

 

Confirmed, USB insert still causes program to crash. Export seems a lot quicker which is very welcome.

xitor:

Can say that it doesn't fix the issue with a video dropped on the timeline and reversed still does not export.   

What video dropped on the timeline. I drag and drop videos all the time. I haven't done reverse though so can't comment. 

Did an export of my last video, and didn't noticed any speed improvement, but looking forward to editing with it, hopefully we'll see some of the benefits there.

Did you time anything or is this just speculation. I timed exporting a 4K 422 10bit 24P video with PS23, 24,and 25. One animated title I created and a Smartsound song. Exported as 4K HEVC 40Mb's. And the speed difference is there because I timed the same project in each. Made sure that Rendered files were deleted each time and timed how long to timeline render @100% with each and then export. 

 

It does seem to have caused a problem regarding saved menus as well. I had no problem prior to the patch but now, when loading a saved menu for amendment in a new project, it sometimes appears blank (black window). The only way to restore it is to exit the program and enter it again.

Tony - this was a PS25 bug you were kind enough to verify quite a while ago that I reported in this group.  Drop a video on your time line, time-remap and reverse the video and it exports garbage.  I repeated that test hoping that it would work with this patch and it doesn't.  

I guess posting it in the forum isn't the correct way I need to file a bug report somewhere. 

 

Also, regarding this fix:

Clips from DJI drone have frame drop in export, wrongly detected for Same as Timeline 

 I've never had that problem until the last video I just did, and I had the issue with 25.0 and 25.02 which makes me wonder if that huge list is really everything fixed, or just a known bug list for 25.  

@xitor, I don't have to export to see that time remap reverse still doesn't work. Playing it back on the timeline is messed up no matter what type of video clip I try it on.

Looking at the bug fix list, I don't see it listed. It might require more time to fix maybe? 

I'll try and "re-rattle" some cages. As for the DJI footage, I do not have drone footage to test. If you can provide as short sample of one piece of footage where this has happened and a recipe with what you did to the clip (LUT, etc), I'll give it a shot.

I beta test for the US Army. If I have issues on my computer, it also has to be replicated on others to confirm it to being a bug. Just like the Time Remap reverse.

If you have footage you don't want to share publicly, you can PM me with a link to download.

As for the bug fix list, the only way to know for sure it to try one! 

Timeless Moments:

Confirmed, USB insert still causes program to crash. Export seems a lot quicker which is very welcome.

Just had it happen here, when unplugging a usb..........