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Last post 05-10-2020, 13:38 by Steve100. 39 replies.
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  •  05-06-2020, 7:38 798907

    How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Hello,

    I'm trying to get some dv tapes onto my Windows 8.1 laptop.
    My old camcorder has a Firewire output but I can't find a device to convert the signal to USB.

    'Pinnacle Studio Movie Box' looks perfect as it has a Firewire socket but is no longer available for purchase and I can't find it second hand either. 

    The only other option I've found is a device called 'Dazzle DVD Recorder HD (PC)' which doesn't have a Firewire connection but would at least allow me to get my tapes on to disk.
    I really have no idea how much worse the picture quality will be but it would be a pity to convert the signal from digital to analogue and then back to digital again.

    I'm just wondering if anyone has any better ideas for connecting a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Best Regards,

    Steve 

  •  05-06-2020, 7:46 798908 in reply to 798907

    Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Hi and welcome to this forum.

    I don't know if it would work, but it's cheap. So may worth a try : https://www.amazon.com/Firewire-IEEE-Female-Adaptor-Converter/dp/B018108GTW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=usb+firewire&qid=1588765546&sr=8-4

  •  05-06-2020, 12:21 798926 in reply to 798908

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    saby:

    Hi and welcome to this forum.

    I don't know if it would work, but it's cheap. So may worth a try : https://www.amazon.com/Firewire-IEEE-Female-Adaptor-Converter/dp/B018108GTW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=usb+firewire&qid=1588765546&sr=8-4

    I bought one of those stated above and it did not work.

    I bought one of this but have not tested it yet: https://www.amazon.com/Chenyang-Firewire-iLink-Adapter-DCR-TRV75E/dp/B00VHUME42/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=ieee+1394+firewire+to+usb&qid=1588782012&sr=8-5 

  •  05-06-2020, 17:09 798945 in reply to 798926

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Hi Saby and R_Vera, 

    Thank you for the nice suggestions.

    Unfortunately you can't just connect the camcorder's Firewire directly to the laptop's USB port via a cable.

    Firewire and USB are based on completely different standards so you need a converter in between.

    Though to be honest, I am mystified as to why such cables exist.

    You'll also need software to monitor the USB port and save the incoming signal to disk. I use an old version of cyberlink's powerdirector but I'm sure there's plenty of other solutions.
    I assume dazzle and moviebox come with software, I'm not bothered about that as I already have a solution.

    Best Regards,

    Steve

     

  •  05-06-2020, 20:13 798949 in reply to 798945

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Steve100:

    Hi Saby and R_Vera, 

    Thank you for the nice suggestions.

    Unfortunately you can't just connect the camcorder's Firewire directly to the laptop's USB port via a cable.

    Firewire and USB are based on completely different standards so you need a converter in between.

    Though to be honest, I am mystified as to why such cables exist.

    You'll also need software to monitor the USB port and save the incoming signal to disk. I use an old version of cyberlink's powerdirector but I'm sure there's plenty of other solutions.
    I assume dazzle and moviebox come with software, I'm not bothered about that as I already have a solution.

    Best Regards,

    Steve

     

    I have always used a IEEE1394 cable connected directly into my camcorder to my old XP computer and it recognized my camcorder without any problems. Some newer computers don't have a firewire port and it's kind of difficult to connect one unless you have a desktop computer and can buy an internal firewire port like this one: 
    https://www.amazon.com/SHINESTAR-Firewire-Adapter-Windows-Controller/dp/B0753H8GTY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3DKBX5TJF8JGK&dchild=1&keywords=ieee+1394+pci+card&qid=1588810389&sprefix=ieee1394+pci%2Caps%2C202&sr=8-3 

  •  05-07-2020, 6:31 798979 in reply to 798949

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    If you have a Firewire port on your computer then I'm sure that will work.

    I meant you can't connect the firewire port of the camcorder to the usb of the laptop without a converter in between.

    A Firewire extension card would be great but I have a laptop.

    Steve 

  •  05-07-2020, 10:30 798989 in reply to 798979

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Steve100:

    If you have a Firewire port on your computer then I'm sure that will work.

    I meant you can't connect the firewire port of the camcorder to the usb of the laptop without a converter in between.

    A Firewire extension card would be great but I have a laptop.

    Steve 

    The only box I can find that has a firewire port is one of this: https://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-8216-00000-21-Studio-MovieBox-Refurb/dp/B0010XE0D4/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=pinnacle+capture+device&qid=1588861690&sr=8-15

    but they are kind of rare to be found on sale. You need to be checking constantly on either ebay or amazon or somewhere else. 

  •  05-07-2020, 11:29 798995 in reply to 798989

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Thank you for the reply. 

    Yes, that's the only one I found too but as you say very rare to find them on sale.
    I've tried setting up a notification on EBay, may be I'll get lucky.

    I'm just wondering how apparent the difference is. I mean if you put them side by side, a screen displaying RCA output and another from Firewire, would we really see much difference?
    I have no idea.

    Steve 


     

  •  05-07-2020, 11:57 798997 in reply to 798995

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Steve - an advantage of Firewire is that as a digital capture, not only does it not degrade the signal, it's also far less prone to dropping frames, which leads to non-sync editing.

    ...and yes, you will be able to detect the difference. It's not huge, but it is discernable in my experince. If you are trying to preserve as much quality as possible it's worth the effort.

  •  05-07-2020, 12:02 798999 in reply to 798997

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    OK thank you jjn.

    Sorry but what's non-sync editing?


    It will be a matter of keeping my eye out for a Firewire converter.

    I've also discovered that my camcorder with Firewire is broken, it's a bit annoying as now I need to devices. 
    That's why I was about to give up.

  •  05-07-2020, 12:22 799002 in reply to 798999

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Non-sync - where the video and audio drift apart so lip-sync goes.

    How many tapes do you have to transfer? There are people/companies who will do it for you.

  •  05-07-2020, 12:32 799004 in reply to 799002

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Ah OK thanks.


    About 50, it's would cost a quite a bit I think.
    I'm hoping to fix my camcorder, I found a 'repair kit' on Ebay for the fault number it's displaying. No idea if it will work but that would solve half the battle.

    Also, I wouldn't be very keen on sticking the lot in the post.  

    I appreciate all the replies by the way.

    All the best,

    Steve 

  •  05-07-2020, 13:11 799012 in reply to 799004

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Any ExpressCard slot available on your laptop ?
  •  05-07-2020, 13:18 799013 in reply to 799012

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Very expensive offer on Ebay : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinnacle-MovieBox-Plus-710-USB-scheda-acquisizione-videocamere-vcr-cassette/333589598409?hash=item4dab7d50c9:g:SDwAAOSwLURerag~
  •  05-07-2020, 13:50 799018 in reply to 799013

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?


    I used to connect my DV camcorder to one of this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-DVDR615-DVD-Recorder-with-Remote-User-manual-and-cable/202888411691?epid=55044031&hash=item2f3d177a2b:g:L20AAOSwZKlcVg5J and it works great to record my movies into a DVD+/-RW disc. 
  •  05-07-2020, 16:18 799030 in reply to 799012

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Hi Saby,

    No, unfortuately not, I have two Lenovos and neither of them have an express card.

     Thank you for the thought.

    Steve 

  •  05-07-2020, 16:20 799032 in reply to 799013

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Yes, I saw that one, just too expensive I think but thanks for sending it over. 

     

    I will try monitoring ebay for a while. 

  •  05-07-2020, 16:22 799033 in reply to 799018

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    That looks very affordable, thank you for the idea.

    So once you have the video recorded on DVD can you just read the file with a laptop?
    It's a very interesting idea. 

    I'm just looking at the list of inputs:
    RF (TV) X 1, S-Video (Via SCART), Composite X 1, S-Video X 1, Analog Audio X 2, Composite (Via SCART), Rgb (Via SCART), Ilink DV Input
    Does ILink DV input mean Firewire?

    Steve
     

  •  05-07-2020, 16:32 799036 in reply to 799033

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Yes, it does.
  •  05-07-2020, 17:19 799039 in reply to 799036

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Hi Saby,

    This is sounding really interesting.

    Once you have your video on DVD are you able to view the files and copy them on to your laptop?

    Steve

  •  05-07-2020, 22:06 799046 in reply to 799039

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Steve100:

    Hi Saby,

    This is sounding really interesting.

    Once you have your video on DVD are you able to view the files and copy them on to your laptop?

    Steve

    Make sure you get the DVD + or - RW so you can reuse them several times if you don't want to spend too many DVD's.

    You can also use the DVD +R or -R but you can just only use them once. 

  •  05-08-2020, 5:57 799054 in reply to 799046

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Hi Saby,

     That's a good tip thank you.

    Steve 

  •  05-08-2020, 11:02 799064 in reply to 799018

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Hi,

    I just discovered that my old DVD player has a Firewire input, so assuming it works I now just need to repair the camcorder which is a big if.
    I guess I'll need to find another camcorder 2nd hand if I can't.

    Thank you and everyone for their tips. 

    Steve 

  •  05-08-2020, 21:00 799089 in reply to 799064

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    Steve100:

    Hi,

    I just discovered that my old DVD player has a Firewire input, so assuming it works I now just need to repair the camcorder which is a big if.
    I guess I'll need to find another camcorder 2nd hand if I can't.

    Thank you and everyone for their tips. 

    Steve 

    Check your camcorder if it has RCA outputs. You can use them to into your DVD Recorder/Player. 

  •  05-09-2020, 2:45 799091 in reply to 799089

    Re: Re:How to connect a camcorder to a windows laptop via Firewire?

    R_Vera:
    Steve100:

    Hi,

    I just discovered that my old DVD player has a Firewire input, so assuming it works I now just need to repair the camcorder which is a big if.
    I guess I'll need to find another camcorder 2nd hand if I can't.

    Thank you and everyone for their tips. 

    Steve 

    Check your camcorder if it has RCA outputs. You can use them to into your DVD Recorder/Player. 

    That's just going full circle and reverting to analogue capture.
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