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Last post 02-02-2019, 6:03 by culpanr. 25 replies.
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  •  01-29-2019, 21:18 778865

    how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    we got a treadmill. walking on that is soooooooo boring.

    so we were told to put videos on an old tablet.

    works great.

    now we need more videos.

     downloaded a bunch of 4k ones. that play in windows 7                windows player i guess.

    most play in pinnacle       but some pinnacle just shows a ?   

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK1K2bCg4J8       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB80ZuIJATI     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfccNYVymA4  and others do NOT play.

    these do play in pinnacle 12.1  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQfrTmubDzM   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qIzs9PQLxk   etc. 

    what do i do to the videos so pinny will chop them up into 30 videos?

     

    thanks all

  •  01-30-2019, 1:21 778866 in reply to 778865

    Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    You downloaded what ? Videos from Youtube ?

    You better use Mediainfo to provide us technical details about these videos : http://forums.pinnaclesys.com/forums/thread/708486.aspx

  •  01-30-2019, 9:44 778893 in reply to 778866

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    thanks

    should that link have led me somewhere in this forum?

    do i have to download more software?

    thanks

  •  01-30-2019, 9:56 778896 in reply to 778893

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    okay. i have media info on the laptop.

    which media view would you need and can i copy and paste the result to the forum.

    thanks very much

     Merci beaucoup

     

     

  •  01-30-2019, 11:04 778905 in reply to 778865

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Pinnacle Studio 12 may not play some videos you downloaded from youtube since they may be in HD or 4K. I would just recommend to use a third party program such as handbrake to convert them into AVI or Mpeg-2 or Mpeg-4 format or buy the new version of PS22 and that should work well on it but the editing format has changed a lot.
  •  01-30-2019, 11:23 778907 in reply to 778905

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    pinnacle studio 12.1 plays 4k videos.

    thanks 

  •  01-30-2019, 11:35 778908 in reply to 778896

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Attachment: doesnotwork1.PNG

    this one does not work

    is this enough information?

    what should i look for?

     

    how do i post 2 images? 

    thanks 


  •  01-30-2019, 11:38 778909 in reply to 778908

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Attachment: thisoneworks.PNG

    this one works

    thanks 


  •  01-30-2019, 14:01 778914 in reply to 778896

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    anon125:

    which media view would you need and can i copy and paste the result to the forum.

    As explained in my mini-tutorial, the tree view is your best choice.

  •  01-30-2019, 15:21 778928 in reply to 778914

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    have not found the mini tutorial.

    where do i find it?

    previous link did not work

    thanks 

  •  01-30-2019, 15:28 778929 in reply to 778866

    Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

     Here :

    saby:

    You better use Mediainfo to provide us technical details about these videos : http://forums.pinnaclesys.com/forums/thread/708486.aspx

  •  01-30-2019, 18:31 778935 in reply to 778929

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Your search - http://forums.pinnaclesys.com/forums/thread/708486.aspx - did not match any documents.

    thanks

  •  01-31-2019, 1:08 778937 in reply to 778935

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    It's not a search but an URL you can copy/paste into your browser.

    Click here => http://forums.pinnaclesys.com/forums/thread/708486.aspx

  •  01-31-2019, 11:34 778948 in reply to 778937

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Attachment: avc choices copy.jpg

     Thanks

    AHA that is what i did before which is where the message came from

    This time it worked.  but i do not see where to tell media info WHERE to save the file! so i dont see the file to post!!! hence the picture (could not find app data)

    if i just use a video convertor- yes i will lose clarity but which would i use?

    here is what is available


  •  01-31-2019, 11:41 778950 in reply to 778948

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Attachment: media info.PNG
    media info thanks

  •  01-31-2019, 11:56 778951 in reply to 778950

    Re: Re:how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Attachment: test.txt
    the TXT FILE thanks guys
  •  01-31-2019, 13:30 778961 in reply to 778951

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    The file you analized with MediaInfo is not 4K, but full hd (1920x1080) only with a very low bitrate and strange framerate (variable framerate up to 90 000 (in words ninetythousend fps)
  •  01-31-2019, 13:53 778963 in reply to 778961

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    thanks

    will download it again!

  •  01-31-2019, 16:43 778977 in reply to 778963

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Attachment: pinnacle message.PNG

     I am sure the media info thing only saves in txt. but the forum just gave a warning so i copied it here.

    what is wrong with this file as far as pinnacle is concerned?

    thanks

     

    General
    Complete name                            : G:\4K Video Downloader\redownloaded\Breathtaking Colors of Nature in 4K III Beautiful Nature - Sleep Relax Music 4K UHD TV Screensaver.mp4
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media
    Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
    File size                                : 2.43 GiB
    Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
    Overall bit rate                         : 2 679 kb/s
    Writing application                      : Lavf56.40.101

    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : High@L4
    Format settings                          : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, RefFrames               : 3 frames
    Codec ID                                 : avc1
    Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
    Duration_FirstFrame                      : -33 ms
    Bit rate                                 : 2 543 kb/s
    Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
    Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                          : Variable
    Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS
    Minimum frame rate                       : 29.970 FPS
    Maximum frame rate                       : 30.030 FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.041
    Stream size                              : 2.31 GiB (95%)
    Color range                              : Limited
    Color primaries                          : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
    Codec configuration box                  : avcC

    Audio
    ID                                       : 2
    Format                                   : AAC LC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
    Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel layout                           : L R
    Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 119 MiB (5%)
    Default                                  : Yes
    Alternate group                          : 1




  •  01-31-2019, 16:46 778978 in reply to 778961

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    IngolfZ:
    ...strange framerate (variable framerate up to 90 000)...
    My guess is that the file is actually a constant 23.976 frame rate, but has at least one bad/corrupt frame that's "throwing" MediaInfo's calculation. (Bad frame(s) could be in the original file, due to a download error, or an coild be an artefact of whatever video downloader program was used to extract the video from Youtube).

    Out of curiosity I did try creating a full-HD (1920x1080) MP4 file using HandBrake, having a constant 23.976 frame rate and other properties as close as I could get to the posted text dump; Studio 12.1 (run here under Windows 10) was able to preview that file OK.

    But what I did discover while experimenting is that Studio 12 (also 14) have trouble with MP4 files that contain interlaced video; the frame rate is reported as half (so for PAL 25fps the file showed in the album as being 12.5fps), and Studio has trouble playing and editing it. Transport stream (.MTS) files such as those from a consumer full-HD camcorder are fine!

    Regards,
    Richard

  •  01-31-2019, 17:18 778980 in reply to 778978

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    thanks that is NOT good news!

    please look at post

    778948

    can you suggest which one to convert it to?

    as my old win7/64 computer pinnacle 12.1 takes 6 hours to process a 2hr file- trying them all is not an option

    thanks

     

  •  01-31-2019, 18:28 778985 in reply to 778980

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    Attachment: Mediainfo_out.txt

    FYI - I tried downloading the first of the three videos listed in the original post as being examples of ones that do not play (in the downloader program I used, I chose the MP4 "1080p" version of the video)

    MediaInfo text dump attached; there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the properties of the file (I see it as being a constant frame rate of 29.970) and I was able to open and preview it in Studio 12 (it's progressive video, not interlaced - so that bug I reported earlier doesn't bite)
    So maybe the downloaded video contained errors, or there's a problem with whatever tool was used to download it?

    Regards,
    Richard

  •  01-31-2019, 18:48 778986 in reply to 778980

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    anon125:
    ...can you suggest which one to convert it to?...
    My opinion/suggestion - because the video is going to end up playing on a tablet having a fairly small screen (10 or 11 inch?), there's probably no point in downloading the full-HD version of the video; the standard-definition (480p) version may well be "good enough" (and be a lot easier to edit and export in Studio 12). Your video downloader tool ought to be able to list the different formats and resolutions available and let you pick which one to download.

    Regards,
    Richard

  •  02-01-2019, 10:19 779041 in reply to 778986

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    thanks for all your help Richard.

    now downloading at a lesser spec.

    will see what happens!

  •  02-01-2019, 15:24 779062 in reply to 779041

    Re: how do i get pinnacle 12.1 to play theses videos

    none worked in pinnacle 12.1  downloaded at mp4 720p

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVkADAwOXnU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfccNYVymA4 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK1K2bCg4J8 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB80ZuIJATI  

    I must be missing something!

     

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