Using Studio 12 (Plus), you get to the endpoint: you want to make an .AVI file encoded with DiVX, wonderful. But have you tried to create such a file, bigger than 3.71 GB?

You don't get ONE file, you get two or more files, each one being limited to 3.71 GB.

The Pinnacle support is still dealing with my requests, but without much success up to now.

It sounds strange, isn't it?

OK, as far as I could investigate the point, it seems that this odd limit comes from a similar limit in addressing space capability of the Microsoft AVI File Support Library (avifil32.dll), which I assume is used by Studio 12 (released in 2008).

But why that .DLL has such a weird (today) limit?

Fact is that the .DLL comes from ... Windows from Workgroup 3.11 (released in 1993, I'm not sure if many of PC users today have even just heard about it....), times when 16 MB of RAM used to be an extraordinary set, so hitting a nearly 4 GB limit was pure sci-fi!

Due to the above, in few words there is no workaround possible to circumvent the 3.71 wall!

Obviously I'd be HAPPY to be contradicted by Pinnacle guys, who will perhaps tell us that there is a simple setting which can be adjusted very easily to break the 3.71 wall. In this case I APOLOGISE in advance!

But, if the above is correct, could Pinnacle just explain us WHY they rely on a prehistoric .DLL, while other software use AVI 2.0 or OpenDML, where there is no such a stupid limit?

I'm very comfortable making much larger .AVI files with Virtualdub, but I spent money for ... Studio (uhm, I remember a song by Dire Straits, maybe?) because I need some of its features which Virtualdub doesn't have...

Come on, Pinnacle guys, reach us in 21st century and stop using the Microsoft AVI (1.0) File Support Library.

Any chances to have this changed with the next patch (I have already tested the 12.1.1.6542 patch, no way....)?

 

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Studios 10/11 & 12 Import both Microsoft DV-AVI  1 & 2 & Export to DV-AVI 2.

I thought DiVX  AVI is an AVI File wrapper for MPEG-4. 

But have you tried to create such a file, bigger than 3.71 GB?

The only single File limit of that size that I'm aware of, would be if your HDD is FAT32, which has a single File limit of 4Gb. NTFS, no File size limit.

I'm afraid you've lost me on the rest of your Post

I expect the Forum's Guru, Bittmann, would/will give an Expert's comment.

Anyone-else?

Hello Colour,

I didn't explicitly mention it, but I only work on NTFS disks, I thought it could seem obvious even because I wrote that I can easily get .AVI files bigger than 4 GB using Virtualdub.

Please let me ask you and all other forum members if they have ever managed to get an .AVI file (DiVX encoded) bigger than 3.71 GB using Studio (12).

Thanks

Dean 

 

Dean64:

Hello Colour,

I didn't explicitly mention it, but I only work on NTFS disks, I thought it could seem obvious even because I wrote that I can easily get .AVI files bigger than 4 GB using Virtualdub.

Please let me ask you and all other forum members if they have ever managed to get an .AVI file (DiVX encoded) bigger than 3.71 GB using Studio (12).

Thanks

Dean 

 

Hmm. A strange one. I have worked on a home video the other week, It involved capturing a 60 minute video, importing in a project and rendering it to a AVI-DV, resulting file was one 10.3 GB file. I'll look into a Divx version and see what happens.

Hello all,

It seems that I have exactly the same problem in Studio 11 Ultimate. I created divx and Studio splitted it over 3.7GB into two files. I hope that you will be able to find solution to this problem, as it makes divx rendering unusable.

Thanks

SQV

I guess that it's not possible to encode a DiVX .AVI file using any of Studio versions (today), because (again, I'd be happy to be contradicted) Studio should still be using the library avifil32.dll, where the 3.71 GB limit is "hard-coded".

The only chance could be that Studio programmers stop using that library and turn up newer standards (AVI 2.0, OpenDML), but this requires at least a patch (and, as it's obvious, I don't have a clue if this is feasible or not).

Bittmann, we're eagerly waiting for your opinion... thanks in advance for that! 

Dean64:

I guess that it's not possible to encode a DiVX .AVI file using any of Studio versions (today), because (again, I'd be happy to be contradicted) Studio should still be using the library avifil32.dll, where the 3.71 GB limit is "hard-coded".

The only chance could be that Studio programmers stop using that library and turn up newer standards (AVI 2.0, OpenDML), but this requires at least a patch (and, as it's obvious, I don't have a clue if this is feasible or not).

Bittmann, we're eagerly waiting for your opinion... thanks in advance for that! 

I'll be glad to report this and see what our QA team will say about it.

Marc,

 I've had a ticket open with Pinnacle support for ten days, no resolution from them (up to now?), I think they don't know exactly how to deal with this issue.

But I wonder how come so few people ever try to get a big DiVX file in Studio, I mean it seems only sqv and I tried to do so.

Maybe could you kindly get in touch with the QA team? At least, if they confirm this is a limit "hard-coded" in the software, I could close the ticket (support is keeping asking me a bunch of useless information....).

Dean

 

Dean64:

Marc,

 I've had a ticket open with Pinnacle support for ten days, no resolution from them (up to now?), I think they don't know exactly how to deal with this issue.

But I wonder how come so few people ever try to get a big DiVX file in Studio, I mean it seems only sqv and I tried to do so.

Maybe could you kindly get in touch with the QA team? At least, if they confirm this is a limit "hard-coded" in the software, I could close the ticket (support is keeping asking me a bunch of useless information....).

Dean

 

I already did, Dean. I'm waiting on their response.

Thanks Marc, any news from Western Front yet?

 I've had a ticket open with Pinnacle support for ten days

Could I have the ticket number in PM?

Roy, I sent you the ticket number, but w'd you have some fun?

Few minutes ago my ticket was closed with this "solution":

"I have escalated your case to our developers. I am sorry but Studio uses the the Microsoft AVI File Support Library (avifil32.dll) , which in turns follows the AVI 1.0 format. The limitation mentioned is integrated in Studio as well."

which seems exactly my statement at the beginning of this thread...

...so I could think that "MY" thread was used to close..."MY" ticket! AMAZING, isnt'it??

   

OK, at this point we're back to what I put down at the beginning:

"Any chances to have this changed with the next patch (I have already tested the 12.1.1.6542 patch, no way....)?"

... and I keep waiting for Pinnacle's answer...

 

Dean

I wonder what will happen if this file is deleted (but kept somewhere for restoration)?

Or is replaced (original kept somewhere) with this one?

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=4020ba4ffbcd2f8791b20cc0d07ba4d24847984ccad3c3f9j

How would Studio react?  

Now that Mon Roy got your ticket number, I'm sure he can get some more insights about it. In the meantime let's wait for his update.