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"Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

Last post 08-31-2008, 11:51 by jjn. 15 replies.
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  •  04-05-2008, 6:44 150175

    "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    What do you use when Burning DVD's? I edit wedding videos then burn DVD's for my clients. Some times my DVD's  will not play on their decks.. I know that some players will need Plus R and others need Minus R. Over All is it better to use Plus r or Minus R . And Is any brand that is better then others Memorex, Maxell. Staples ect....

  •  04-05-2008, 6:53 150182 in reply to 150175

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    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    ISTR that both types have a similar success rate. Given the cost of blanks, I used to just burn one of each. However, I now have a burner that supports Bit Setting. If I use Nero to burn the Video TS created by Studio, and +R discs, the Disc created is seen as a DVD-Rom, even though it isn't. This fools many players into playing it that otherwise wouldn't.

    Taiyo Yuden discs seem to have the highest reputation for quality, with Verbatim coming a close second. There is a good website somewhere that shows you who really makes the discs, which I'll try and find again.

    Yup - HERE IT IS 

    Also this list is quite useful for checking player compatibility

     

  •  04-05-2008, 9:45 150251 in reply to 150182

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    "burner that supports Bit Setting..."

    I just purchased a new burner.  Where/How would I find if it supports this 'Bit Setting?'  And if I found it, how would I turn it on??

     I've always wondered about -R and +R myself.  I've never had anyone who could explain it very well.  Then, throw in 'LightScribe' technology and my internal hard drive (the limited one between my ears) crashes.

    Thanks for your time.

    Jim Boyd
    www.cooljim.com

  •  04-05-2008, 10:05 150256 in reply to 150251

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    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    There is a good explanation of bit setting HERE

    You can search the videohelp burner list for your burner and it will tell you if it supports bit setting - and burners are so cheap nowadays, if your current one doesn't, it might be worth adding a new one to your system.

  •  04-14-2008, 14:26 156100 in reply to 150256

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    I've made a couple of DVD's in Nero and have it configured for Book Type DVD-ROM. When I examine one of these discs with the Nero Info Tool should'nt it be identified as a DVD-ROM? Because it still says DVD+R.
  •  04-14-2008, 15:44 156170 in reply to 156100

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    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    Yes - I get that with my bit-set DVDs as well. I'd guess that Nero Info tool looks at more than just the bits. I can confirm I've fooled at least one dvd player into playing +rs that it wouldn't until I used bitsetting.

    Looking for a tool that is fooled! 

  •  04-14-2008, 18:35 156234 in reply to 156170

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    The best way to see if your drive supports bit sitting is to down load a program called dvdinfopro use it's free trail until the time expires. This program will list everyting your drive can and cannot do. It will also tell you a lot about in disk you put into your drive.

    found here

     

  •  04-14-2008, 22:43 156472 in reply to 156170

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    JJN,

    Thanks for the information and the links on bit setting. Excellent information, the heads-up on the subject is most appreciated.

  •  04-14-2008, 22:50 156473 in reply to 156234

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    Ghuck,


    Thanks for the link on DVDinfoPro. The Nero Info Tool is free if you find yourself needing one after that trial expires.

  •  04-14-2008, 23:00 156474 in reply to 150182

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    I wonder how DVD-RAM writers fit into this picture?  From what I've gleaned they produce a much better quality and longer lasting disc but are less compatible and the discs more expensive. In other words, does DVD-RAM create a DVD-ROM?
  •  04-15-2008, 0:02 156478 in reply to 156474

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    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    From my reading of the subject, bit-setting won't work on DVD-RAM. However, I did discover that in some rare cases bitsetting might be applied to -R disc HERE
  •  04-15-2008, 0:18 156487 in reply to 156170

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    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    If you have Nero CD/DVD Speed, that shows book type as well as media type. Interestingly, the program Ghuck linked to show the correct information about book type, but under Region Information said "None - Not a DVD-Video disc"
  •  04-15-2008, 7:28 156718 in reply to 156478

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    I saw that about the -R's. It seems like a "long row to hoe" to make a -R a Booktype disc. But at least there is a way to do it

  •  07-30-2008, 22:56 217280 in reply to 156718

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    I have purchased only +R inkjet printables for the last 7 years or so.  I've used exclusively NEC drives so far, and have flashed their firmware with code that has the Booktype permenantly set to DVD-ROM.

    Basically this results in every DVD I burn looking like a retail DVD to other players, and I've had almost zero problems with older player compatability.

    Note that doing this will probably void your warranty...but on a $40 drive it was worth the risk.  Lots of info about hacked bitsetting firmware over on www.cdfreaks.com.

    Here's another great utility from that site: http://dvdidentifier.cdfreaks.com - this tiny program will read a recordable DVD, tell you if it's a +R(W), -R(W) etc, what the booktype is, who made the media, and other tidbits of info.

     

  •  07-31-2008, 13:36 217530 in reply to 217280

    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    Excellent tip stikle! I'll read up on this. Yes
  •  08-31-2008, 11:51 228636 in reply to 217530

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    Re: "Plus R or Minus R" DVD's

    Another thread that shouldn't just "Go Missing"
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