OK, well I don't know, but I have VERY hopes for it when it arrives in a couple of months...

I hope that the main bugs in S11 are taken care of - see this link (no audio on DVD, volume envelope markers)...

I am on record for asking for most of these already, but please....

• MOST IMPORTANT: include full AC-3 supported for import? This includes the ability to get true 5.1 sound from the new AVCHD camcorders that have been out for more than 1-2 years
• JUST AS IMPORTANT: Impoved AVCHD performance. Why do I get better performance out of some of the more complex (but still similarly priced) competitor products? I have no idea. Surely if some products can do it, so can Pinnacle.
• Quicktime .mov support would be good. and while we're on it, what about .psd (Photoshop) support?
• Use of the actual divx codec? Some of us have the pro versions, it would be nice if Studio tied into it during the make movie process
• include other effects (colour correction) and pro-like transitions that can be keyframed that you find in some competing products of similar price. I don't have a need for all the cheesy transitions and FX, but adding in some additional "classy" effects/transitions would be nice. Details upon request.
• Keep the same UI. It beats the competition hands down.. That is why people keep coming back.
• background rendering of AVCHD
• I miss that in-timeline photoediting feature from S10 (actually, the only thing I miss about S10, still buggy and wouldn't allow me to pick the editor I really wanted)
• menus for BR disks
• true 4 core support
• work with proDAD to bring in Mercalli (or is part of S12 Ultimate Platinum??? Running out of superlatives) And while you are there with proDAD work out the annoying bug where Hero or Vitascene use the whole clip to render (not the section you selected via razor cuts in Studio). The workaround is to split the file in album. BUT, this only works in scene mode and in scene mode, you don't get the check marks to say the clip is being used!
• And 1 last item...no more debacles like S10, please. Studio is well ahead of most competitors, so keep it that way!

It would be good to keep loyal users in the loop. I am looking forward to shelling out my $$$ for the next version in a few months provided it has the top 3 things (fixes, AC3 and AVCHD performance upgrade). A suggestion which I would imagine many of us would have enjoyed is seeing a survey with bugs, new potential feaures all listed out and asking for us to say what OUR priorities are. This would be a great way to bring the expertise of some users into the development process. Many users did see a targeted suvey before release of the Smartsound/Heroglyph packages released around Halloween. But what about for the main app?

 

How many wishes did we have for 9, 10 and 11?

Gerry

They gave me AVCHD support in S11, so I am hopeful.

More requests (I am now salivating at the thought of S12!)

• selective background rendering (choose which clips to bgr render or re-render)
• choose # of concurrent background rendering threads (those with less cpu power could allow fewew concurrent bgr rendering)

 

A hot key to start/stop BG render would be really cool.....

 

Keep the same UI. It beats the competition hands down.. That is why people keep coming back.

Hmm. IMHO, get rid of the UI, at least the cute picture of a camcorder etc.  It's embarrasing and until you actually try the product it makes you assume that it only has noddy functionality.  The only reason I came back to it after a few years away was because it came free with the camcorder - and although dismayed again by the appearance I persisted and found that it works well on the whole.  Stuff like "My movie" being presented as a default project name is a bit kindergarten too, surely?  Better to treat the users as adults rather than kids, surely?

 Again, IMHO I'd rather see smart rendering of AVCHD material before background rendering, but if we can have both, then great!

I would bet that it will be included. I seem to recall even Pinnacle staff mentioned that they were looking into it somewhere in the forum a short while ago.

markk655:

More requests (I am now salivating at the thought of S12!)

I really can't imagine "salivating" over the next package when 10 and 11 left anyone who previously (9.3.5) had been able to export a good finished product with 11 that won't allow you to adequately adjust audio tracks or even enable you to finish a project without the application of a third party software (IfoEdit)

Hundreds of dollars - and more importantly - hundreds of wasted HOURS.

Yes, I know.  Whiney 

 

patj:

markk655:

More requests (I am now salivating at the thought of S12!)

I really can't imagine "salivating" over the next dumpy package

Pat, I'll give you a hint. If you haven't been sucessful with S11, then you probably shouldn't cross over to S12 when (if) it ever shows up. Just trying to be helpful and save you the trouble. It's obvious that something in your setup is not working with Studio , and it's doubtful that S12 will work better.

If your time is as valuable as you lead us to believe, then I would suggest you step up to a professional editor. At least you might expect perfection there, and not from a consumer software.

 

 

Support for QT and alpha channels most definitely.  Unlimited tracks ... ... that would be nice.  We'll see.  How many more months now?

It seems that patj has a more than adequate computer to run Studio. But that is hardware.... I don't know what software is installed and how the computer is run. I know someone with Q6600 and ATI HD3850 that is having fun with his system.

towbar:

If you haven't been sucessful with S11, then you probably shouldn't cross over to S12 when (if) it ever shows up. Just trying to be helpful and save you the trouble. It's obvious that something in your setup is not working with Studio , and it's doubtful that S12 will work better.

Hmmm... been a Studio user since 1.06

I know what makes a Studio system and 10 and 11 have audio problems that 9 never did.  Hundreds of forum participants agree. 

Pat,

I've been around the block a time or two myself. I'm not questioning your integrity, I'm just questioning your system. I merely stated that your system isn't working in 11, and it's doubtful that it will work in 12.

I'm not burdened with the no audio problem in S11, but I do use a few workarounds to get what I need out of the program. I happen to use S9 for a few things that it does better than S11. All in all, it ain't all roses. But it ain't that bad either.

You have every right to whine, and admitedly you do so. I'm just hoping that you get your resolve.

 

towbar:

I've been around the block a time or two myself.

It's not the bugs so much, Mr. Towbar... just Pinnacle's lack of admitting the issues and communicating with us.  Since you've been around the block as I have, then you, also, have plunked as much $$$ as it would cost for a "Pro" editor with all of the various offerings by Pinnacle.  I lead a group of users that have a ton of experience in v9 and some have gone to 10 with issues we've had to work around (the latest being lack of solid support (well-documented) for 8XXX Nvidia cards). 

IFOEdit and dancing audio handles - the first is manageable - but the second requires HUGE workarounds.

There are many that insinuate that just because 9.3.5 worked, then if 11 (or 12...) don't work well - then users like me should just toss it aside and find a "Pro" program that will better suit our needs. 

Without hundreds of users on these forums cementing the bugs in Pinnacle's heads, 9 would have never gotten to it's finest point of 9.3.5.  Oh, yeah - are you satisfied with how Pinnacle left v10?

I lead a group of users

Is that a secret society, or one we can join?

BTW, you might not need IfoEdit much longer. 

patj:

 Since you've been around the block as I have, then you, also, have plunked as much $$$ as it would cost for a "Pro" editor with all of the various offerings by Pinnacle. 

True. I'm sitting on 5 copies of Studio, with 2 PCI cards. I've also used other NLE programs, but choose to stay with Studio.

patj:

There are many that insinuate that just because 9.3.5 worked, then if 11 (or 12...) don't work well - then users like me should just toss it aside and find a "Pro" program that will better suit our needs. 

 S9 didn't work in the beginning. I looked at my journal, and there are 16 full pages of my ponderings, for I went through a couple of different MBOs before I was satisfied. I still to this day can't utilize a SATA drive with my S9 configuration. I guess that I've been through your type of problems, but I had them in S9. I didn't know this forum existed then, so I had to just fix it myself.

patj:

Oh, yeah - are you satisfied with how Pinnacle left v10?

Nope, but I'm not bothered by the purchase. I've dropped more than that cost on a Friday night at the steak house.  During the time I had S10 installed, I only used it for testing. Since it never worked for me, I continued to use S9. When S11 rolled around I was pretty quick at the chance.

Like I said, I hope that you get your resolve. I really don't take NLE very seriously, it's just a hobby for me. But if I were serious, I would have been long gone during my S10 escapade. 

 

 

towbar:

Like I said, I hope that you get your resolve. I really don't take NLE very seriously, it's just a hobby for me. But if I were serious, I would have been long gone during my S10 escapade. 

Sir, I am in awe of your patience and counsel in responding to the oft-ranting of this user.  As one of my colleagues has been so helpful to point out, these forums have been a shining light in many times of trial, and I must always value the resource by seeking resolve rather than venting.  I stand (or rather - sit) corrected. 

jjn:

I lead a group of users

Is that a secret society, or one we can join?

BTW, you might not need IfoEdit much longer. 

Hoo-ray!  No more IfoEdit!

Secret society ???  Right.  Anyone who uses Studio regularly is not secret for long!  Weddings, graduations, birthdays, funerals, and everything else when filtered through (a good computer/software combo) Studio gets attention and more work and opportunities than you can shake a stick at!

>> Can anyone join?  I thought you'd never ask... : )  I've got two recent weddings and two ancient ones to edit right now.  My quad core is singing after work every day, along with two 3000+ AMDs... Oh yeah - gotta start working up the old video footage and pix of my sister's three (now grown) children (from the hospital through about age five) put to Celine Dion singing "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face"... Oh I love this when it works!!

 

towbar:

 I went through a couple of different MBOs before I was satisfied. I still to this day can't utilize a SATA drive with my S9 configuration.

 A friend had issues with an MSI mb with NForce2 chipset - couldn't capture via breakout box to his SATA hd without OOS in v9.  Could capture to another drive and move files to the SATA and edit fine...as you, he had to swap out mb to get everything to work.  Thinks it may have been the Promise raid - but anything's possible.

FWIW - a few of my favorite suggestions are:

• Fix the volume handles (glad they finally fixed the "no audio on DVD" bug)
• Button to toggle background rendering on/off
• More video tracks, of course
• Automatically turn off "full screen preview on second monitor" when you go to the Make Movie tab
  (I know, really minor, but it bugs me sometimes.)
• Ability to control menu navigation (button sequence)
• Allow longer chapter titles (used to work in S8 - text box "scrolled" as you typed)
• Improve "disk space" estimates to minimize rendering failures that result when the finished product is too large for a disk
  (One cause appears to be that only the first page of multi-page menus is accounted for, which is a problem especially for motion menus.)
• Fix the bug where editing a menu breaks links to that menu
  - Menu #1 (main menu) links to menu #2
  - Then edit menu #2
  - Now the link on menu #1 is broken
  I have written about this bug in detail on more than one occasion

I'm sure my list varies slightly from day to day. 

 

Lot of great suggestions by people that are considerably more adept at using Studio that I will ever be...

 

My 2 cents worth...

Support for .mov file format with alpha channels.

Multiple timelines.

 GP

Ditto here.  Quicktime (.mov) compatibility.  More timelines.

gorebels:

Ditto here.  Quicktime (.mov) compatibility.  More timelines.

The workaround that I use for these is to use a program by Serif called MoviePlus 5. This has multiple timelines, beautifully managed, and accepts .mov files with alpha. It also supports a number of still-image formats with alpha channels. 

I use this program to create segments as dv-avi files, then bring them back into Studio. The quality of its codecs is brilliant too (Main Concept), so there's no worries there.

Oh, yes, this program is inexpensive, especially considering what it can do for you. It's great for titles and credits too.

Workarounds are fine.  Using other programs to help the main program function are fine  and even necessary for some things.  How difficult would it be to incorporate the ability to use a codec to enable using quicktime in the timeline?  If Studio would import quicktime and allow as many as 3 or 4 video timelines, I'd be a very happy camper.  It appears that Studio 12 does neither, so I guess its either do workarounds with Studio 12 or move on to other nle possibilities.