Studio - Capture

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Marc P. — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:17:39 GMT

It's nice to hear that everything is up and running again.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Bazzer133 — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:31:53 GMT

As the instigator of this thread (last June) it's been interesting to read that others have had similar problems.

However, thanks to Marc my Firewire problem has been resolved.

His suggestion (why didn't I think of it?) was to fit a PCI to Firewire card.

Did this (cost < £10) and all's well and running very efficiently.

Seems that, after all, it was a hardware fault (? chip on motherboard) as has been suggested elsewhere.

Many thanks to all who contributed and particularly to Marc for his suggestion

Bazzer

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Marc P. — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:54:27 GMT

See my response in this thread, I hope it gives a bit of light on the subject.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

v3rlon — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 06:53:46 GMT

I seem to have a similar problem and looking for help. The computer swears firewire is fine, but it never sees my camera.

Vista Home Premium 32

Intel q6600, ASUS P5KC (Intel 38 chiipset)

Sony FX7 camcorder

Everything used to work fineb with all of this hardware. I recently got Studio 14 and wanted to try out some of the new stuff.

I set up to import from the camcorder and- nothing. The Camcorder shows iLink, but Windows sees nothing.

Yes, the camera is on and in VCR mode.

Tried a new cable, though the old one tested good with a multimeter.

Firewire pot shows in device manager as ok. Tried disable/enable, uninstall - reinstall, and selecting other drivers to install

Tried the 1394 on front and back (both worked before)

I have only 1 firewire device and only this computer with firewire.

Google solutions are proving to be useless (Vista doesn't support firewire? Really? bah - urban legend nonsense)

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Marc P. — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:40:52 GMT

Dayjack119:
I'll butt in here just for a moment. Twice I have had the 'non-recognition of camera/firewire' problem. Both nearly ended it for me. The first was a bug in my motherboard. Replaced and problem gone. On another computer that this happened on, I took my video card, firewire and camera to Best Buy to test and they all worked fine. Went home and it didn't work. Two weeks and much frustration later, I added a new firewire cable just for fun. The camera was immediately recognized, and has performed great ever since. Even though the firewire was tested at Best Buy it was faulty. So there you go.

Thanks for sharing this with us Dayjack119. It's usually the simple things that we overlook that get the best of us.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Dayjack119 — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:06:20 GMT

I'll butt in here just for a moment. Twice I have had the 'non-recognition of camera/firewire' problem. Both nearly ended it for me. The first was a bug in my motherboard. Replaced and problem gone. On another computer that this happened on, I took my video card, firewire and camera to Best Buy to test and they all worked fine. Went home and it didn't work. Two weeks and much frustration later, I added a new firewire cable just for fun. The camera was immediately recognized, and has performed great ever since. Even though the firewire was tested at Best Buy it was faulty. So there you go.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Marc P. — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:30:13 GMT

colour:
wires:

2) Likewise, some Proprietry "Firewire" Cards, eg; Texas Instruments aren't good hor Capturing Video. Maybe their main function is also for Copying Files to an External HDD

If I may be allowed to dissagree on this point.

On the Liquid forum there have been an unknown number of posts from many experienced users saying that PCs using a TI chip for their Firewire cards are the only ones where problems aren't to be expected.

This seems to be true for those users capturing full HD direct from their cameras. LewS and others have suggested that the best way to avoid any capture problems is to use a seperate Firewire card with a TI chip instead of any - even if it's a TI chip - on-board Firewire connection.

Thanks for the SP Gerry. I mentioned TI, because at least 2 anyway, I can think of, didn't work on this side of the fence

I believe I've seen those 2 threads as well.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

colour — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:07:15 GMT

wires:

2) Likewise, some Proprietry "Firewire" Cards, eg; Texas Instruments aren't good hor Capturing Video. Maybe their main function is also for Copying Files to an External HDD

If I may be allowed to dissagree on this point.

On the Liquid forum there have been an unknown number of posts from many experienced users saying that PCs using a TI chip for their Firewire cards are the only ones where problems aren't to be expected.

This seems to be true for those users capturing full HD direct from their cameras. LewS and others have suggested that the best way to avoid any capture problems is to use a seperate Firewire card with a TI chip instead of any - even if it's a TI chip - on-board Firewire connection.

Thanks for the SP Gerry. I mentioned TI, because at least 2 anyway, I can think of, didn't work on this side of the fence

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

wires — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:10:17 GMT

2) Likewise, some Proprietry "Firewire" Cards, eg; Texas Instruments aren't good hor Capturing Video. Maybe their main function is also for Copying Files to an External HDD

If I may be allowed to dissagree on this point.

On the Liquid forum there have been an unknown number of posts from many experienced users saying that PCs using a TI chip for their Firewire cards are the only ones where problems aren't to be expected.

This seems to be true for those users capturing full HD direct from their cameras. LewS and others have suggested that the best way to avoid any capture problems is to use a seperate Firewire card with a TI chip instead of any - even if it's a TI chip - on-board Firewire connection.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Marc P. — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:30:02 GMT

colour:
My "Firewire" technology knowledge is a bit limited. However:

1) Some Audigy SoundBlaster Audio Cards have a separate "Firewire" Connector as an added feature for Copying Files from an iternal to an external "Firewire" enabled HDD. There have been Posts where these don't always work for Capturing Video.

2) Likewise, some Proprietry "Firewire" Cards, eg; Texas Instruments aren't good hor Capturing Video. Maybe their main function is also for Copying Files to an External HDD..

IMO you're better-off with a separate PCI VIA Generic "Firewire" Card.

Agreed!

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

colour — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:12:30 GMT

My "Firewire" technology knowledge is a bit limited. However:

1) Some Audigy SoundBlaster Audio Cards have a separate "Firewire" Connector as an added feature for Copying Files from an iternal to an external "Firewire" enabled HDD. There have been Posts where these don't always work for Capturing Video.

2) Likewise, some Proprietry "Firewire" Cards, eg; Texas Instruments aren't good hor Capturing Video. Maybe their main function is also for Copying Files to an External HDD..

IMO you're better-off with a separate PCI VIA Generic "Firewire" Card.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

colour — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:07:02 GMT

My "Firewire" technology knowledge is a bit limited. However:

2) Likewise, some Proprietry "Firewire" Cards, eg; Texas Instruments, aren't good for Capturing Video. Maybe their main function is also for Copying Files to an External HDD..

IMO you're better-off with a separate PCI VIA OHCI Compliant Generic "Firewire" Card.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Bazzer133 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:22:12 GMT

Thanks Marc.

Your help and that of all others who contributed to this string is much appreciated

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Marc P. — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:02:45 GMT

Bazzer133:
No doubt at some stage I'll be dragged screaming into upgrading my m/c and OS to W7 which poses the following questions

1. Unless it has XP compatibility, presumably I'll have to ditch my v9.4.3 in favour of v12 or v14? (Even if W7 does have XP compatibility, the Firewire port may still not work!).

2. If/When I upgrade to v12 or v14 (under W7), will my existing Moviebox Deluxe be compatible? I still have a number of analogue tapes I need to process.

Many thanks

I'd recommend trying Studio 14 when the time comes. I can see it being the easiest Studio version to use so far and is 100% W7 compatible. As per this FAQ your capture device should work fine.

Re: Firewire Port not recognised

Bazzer133 — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:26:38 GMT

The old chestnut resurrected - yet a further update and queries!!

Nothing from ABIT (surprise surprise).

Marc. What a splendid idea of yours re a PCI to Firewire expansion card. Why didn't I think of that? It's worth a try.

I've ditched ACRONIS in favour of Terabyte's "Image for Windows" with its plugin using BartPE. It's a sector by sector backup/restore system so hopefully will be more reliable.

One avenue to pursue if I can get round to it, is to backup my m/c, reformat the HD, and reload Win XP from scratch applying all the patches and testing the Firewire port at each stage. This will almost certainly ascertain whether the Firewire problem is h/w or s/w related and if the latter at which stage the failure occurred. Tedious but interesting(?).

No doubt at some stage I'll be dragged screaming into upgrading my m/c and OS to W7 which poses the following questions

1. Unless it has XP compatibility, presumably I'll have to ditch my v9.4.3 in favour of v12 or v14? (Even if W7 does have XP compatibility, the Firewire port may still not work!).

2. If/When I upgrade to v12 or v14 (under W7), will my existing Moviebox Deluxe be compatible? I still have a number of analogue tapes I need to process.

Many thanks