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Re: Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

keitha — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:53:53 GMT

I,m using Liquid 7.02 with an Radeon 1950 card spec I picked up on this forum and

Just completed a doco with menu and 6 chapters total 1.5 hours, plus an long wedding

and I just want to say at this point Liquid still works for me, judging by the posts on

the forum Direct X10 cards are now working too, I'll stay with it as long as it is around

and really appreciate the efforts of the enthusiasts and the help they give.....the fact that it

works so well with an older card is a bonus not a minus....!!

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

cmedico — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:37:16 GMT

What you are describing here is common symptoms of memory corruption on the video card. This can be caused by bad memory on the card as well as conflicts in the memory addressing space between the card and the CPU. I see in your profile you list 2gig of ram in your computer. Is this still case?

One of the cards I had would show corruption artifacts after running for a while. Unless the card is bad out of the box this is what would generally be expected. The problems would start happening after the card gets hot. If it happens when the card is cold I would look for a driver problem or some address conflict in the computer first. If you can't find one then its more likely its just a DOA card.

Chris

VM2 Productions:
Ok, I have an ATI 2900xt and I can’t even get it loaded on my system to even see if it will work with Liquid. After I install it and boot into windows it works. That is, without the drivers. As soon as I install the ATI drivers and reboot, it does not work anymore. I can see it all the way up to the WinXP splash screen but then it goes away. The screen goes black and the monitors go into sleep mode. But if I uninstall the drivers in Safe Mode, I can boot again into windows.

Also, when still in dos there are all kinds of artifacts/patterns on the screen. There is a mosaic of blue marks that look like quotation marks, and there are bunches of exclamation marks and sometimes the text is jumbled.

Anybody have any ideas?

R. Smith

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

TVJohn — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:51:29 GMT

Boot into windows safe mode and check the display settings. It is possible some funky refresh rate or resolution is set that your monitor can't handle.
Bad out of the box cards are not unheard of.
No one has tinkered with the BIOS on that card have they? Some people OC a lesser card to emulate a more expensive version.

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

DStone — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:46:13 GMT

It sounds like your Windows installation is corrupted. At least that's where I would start. The other things you can try is to install it on another system and see if it works there. If it does, then it's Windows on the first system. If it doesn't, then either the card is bad or your drivers are corrupted.

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

VM2 Productions — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:20:50 GMT

Ok, I have an ATI 2900xt and I can’t even get it loaded on my system to even see if it will work with Liquid. After I install it and boot into windows it works. That is, without the drivers. As soon as I install the ATI drivers and reboot, it does not work anymore. I can see it all the way up to the WinXP splash screen but then it goes away. The screen goes black and the monitors go into sleep mode. But if I uninstall the drivers in Safe Mode, I can boot again into windows.

Also, when still in dos there are all kinds of artifacts/patterns on the screen. There is a mosaic of blue marks that look like quotation marks, and there are bunches of exclamation marks and sometimes the text is jumbled.

Anybody have any ideas?

R. Smith

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

pacquid — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:07:08 GMT

ati has always been the preffered card for Liquid,Navida will catchup in a year or two,lol

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

mjolnarn — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:43:39 GMT

VE7AXO:
Tack för det!

Lycka till

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

VE7AXO — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:36:25 GMT

Tomas,

Thanks for the test with the hardware acceleration and sharing your results. I will wait for the Dx10 on XP patch for now and maybe switch to Vista 64 with NextGen.

Tack för det!

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

mjolnarn — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:03:12 GMT

VE7AXO:
In another thread Dave Stone said that the ATI 2900 HD board can possibly be made to work with WinXP and Liquid 7.2 by dropping down one notch on the hardware acceleration slider. This works with some, not necessarily all systems. So far nobody has actually confirmed that they have repaired an unworkable system by making this change in the video card settings.

As I expect to be one of those testing this patch, I took the dust off my XP boot disc and tried if anything had happened recently with new CC drivers and XP SP 3, I also tried with reducing the hardware accleration but, sorry, same old probs as usual, the patch seems to be the only soultion, no patch needed in Vista however and Salexander has also reported that the 3850 card works well with Vista as OS, the loosers seems to be the ones with DX 10 Nvidia cards and Vista as OS, no patch for Vista and nvidia DX 10 cards not working in Vista.

However, ATI solved the issue wiith Vista as OS with a new CC release so the NVidia users might hope for a new driver, otherwise it is time to change card to ATI, now that we know what the patch will give us, no more speculations, the correct info has been given to us now.

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

mjolnarn — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:09:59 GMT

jpiros:
..as a follow-up - this is only an XP program, no vista

As expected, and as I have believed, seems logical..

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

TVJohn — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:45:11 GMT

Perfect, I have the primary box listed in my profile, and a backup box :

AMD 3800

Biostar NF4 / VIA 880

ATI X700 / 256

1 gig ram

4 drives

Audigy 2zs

Currently XP service pk 2 will move to SP3 as needed.

Liquid 6.1, 7.2

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

Scott Myers — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:35:55 GMT

jpiros:
..as a follow-up - this is only an XP program, no vista

To take that further, the beta is for users with Liquid 7.2 on XP SP3 with a DX9 or DX10 video card.

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

jpiros — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:51:28 GMT

..as a follow-up - this is only an XP program, no vista

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

wires — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:45:19 GMT

Thanks Jan,

Doesn't matter who gets selected, just nice to know that the patch is being worked on - and that users were asked to take part.

Re: Beta Liquid 7.2 DirectX10 Patch

jpiros — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:26:42 GMT

Thank you for all your emails/requests. I have provided the names to our QA for the program. They don't need everybody for Beta so they will probably pick a short list.

Jna