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Re: understanding timeline properties

Richard Gooderick — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:47:23 GMT

Thanks for watching it Melvin.

BTW if anyone else watches the film and has suggestions about how the editing could be improved I'd love to hear them. Don't worry about being nice or upsetting me. I'm very thick skinned :-)

Re: understanding timeline properties

shambels — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:56:09 GMT

I watched it and thought it quite good.

Re: understanding timeline properties

Richard Gooderick — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:34:10 GMT

Fantastic Evan

Thanks for watching it. I didn't think anyone would!

I'm hoping to finish part two tomorrow and have it posted by the weekend. The editing is a bit wild in places. I hope I can get away with it :-)

It's possible that I'm not aware of some of the issues so if you've got any suggestions about these and how they could be improved eg colour saturation, it would be great to have them. Some may be deliberate ie the sound equivalent of a jump cut, but most probably aren't. The sound at sea was mostly captured as separate sound using an HHB minidisc recorder with a G2 radiomic with the standard mics (OK, but not brilliant) and a Sanken CS-3e (a fantastic mic but very directional).

I've still got a lot to learn about editing.

Re: understanding timeline properties

EvanF — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:23:20 GMT

Wonderful video Richard.

Very interesting to me - also being a sailor.

The narator was good, loved the sound. Watching it full screen was amazing - excellent quality even on MPEG4.

A few minor editing blips that you are probably aware of, sound cutoff, a bit lighting issues, a tad of color/saturation issues. But, those are picky. Overall, the sound quality was good.

But, of course, the most important thing is the story. Such an adventure is captivating and you carried us along well.

Thanks for posting,

EvanF

Re: understanding timeline properties

Richard Gooderick — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:53:17 GMT

Thanks for asking.

The standard mpeg 4 settings in Liquid worked best.

Here's part one of the film:

http://www.bluewaterfilm.org

It's 25 minutes long. If anyone has time to look at it I hope you find it enjoyable!

Re: understanding timeline properties

drdimento — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:29:23 GMT

And, did it work?

Re: understanding timeline properties

mjolnarn — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:55:08 GMT

Very good, looking forward to watch your movie.

Re: understanding timeline properties

Richard Gooderick — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:34:57 GMT

Many thanks Tomas.

And thank you for your help too when my computer began to malfunction.

After two years, part one of a film I am making is being rendered for uploading to Vimeo. Fingers crossed, as we say in England :-)

Re: understanding timeline properties

mjolnarn — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:32:20 GMT

Richard Gooderick:

I tried fusing half of the timeline and got an mpeg file, which confused me too. But your explanation that wmv files are not supported in Liquid has clarified that.

And windows mediafiles are fully supported to work with in Liquid of course, they will just be rendered to the same codec as your timeline, the reason to not have that codec on your timeline among the defaults is that it is a low resolution codec, your are not able to get good results if you, for example, should want to create a bluray disc from a file fused out of Liquid in that resolution, even a dvd disc would be hard to get good.

Re: understanding timeline properties

mjolnarn — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:20:35 GMT

Your fuse from that timeline is your native codec and should be greysliced when adding it to a new timeline.

It is actually one m2v file for the video and some wav files for the audio, how many is dependent on your audio routing settings.

Re: understanding timeline properties

Richard Gooderick — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:13:10 GMT

Thank you Tomas and Draske for your quick replies.

I'm sorry I must have been working too hard and have lost the plot. I don't know where I got 720i from. As Tomas says, it's 720p in the default wmv settings.

Draske, your post explains why it is rendering. Presumably because it is converting the timeline from wmv to mpeg when I reimport the wmv file. I tried fusing half of the timeline and got an mpeg file, which confused me too. But your explanation that wmv files are not supported in Liquid has clarified that.

Many thanks to both of you. Much appreciated.

Re: understanding timeline properties

Draske — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:04:21 GMT

Correct, there is no default setting. Just use the 720p project and then change the interlacing setting accordingly.

Liquid will still need to rerender as the WMV files are not native supported. It will convert the file with the use of the selected render codec.

Re: understanding timeline properties

mjolnarn — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:26:18 GMT

Richard Gooderick:

However, I just don't understand this. I have made a film in HDV and exported it as a WMV file at 1280 x 720 interlaced which is one of the standard wmv settings given as a choice in the menu.

There are no such default setting as 720 i, at least not in my version of Liquid, only 720 p

understanding timeline properties

Richard Gooderick — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:59:01 GMT

I've always found timeline and clip properties very confusing but I thought I was getting on top of it.

However, I just don't understand this. I have made a film in HDV and exported it as a WMV file at 1280 x 720 interlaced which is one of the standard wmv settings given as a choice in the menu.

I wanted to make a version comprising of the first half of the film so I imported this onto a new timeline and set the properties accordingly but it doesn't seem possible to set it to 720 interlaced. There only seems to an option to set it to 720p (progressive).

This isn't a disaster except that the timeline is yellow and Liquid wants to re-render it and this is going to take a long time. Presumably it is converting it from interlaced to progressive.

All I wanted to do was to chop the wmv clip in two because it was too long to upload.

Does anyone have a suggestion as to what I am doing wrong?