Liquid s/w - Liquid Pro - Liquid Chrome Xe

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

TVJohn — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:05:32 GMT

My AMD 940 with 4 gig on a 770 mobo ATI X4850 worked fine.

Full screen playback with HDV material ok

Capture of HDV from Canon XH-A1 ok

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT INSTALLATION OF THE 2.7 UTILITY THAT ALLOWS FULL MEMORY USAGE FOR 32BIT OS WILL CAUSE THE CAPTURE MONITOR IN LIQUID

AND STUDIO NOT TO WORK.

USING THE NORMAL MEMORY OPTION AT BOOT-UP RESOLVES THE PROBLEM.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

sinivision — Wed, 20 May 2009 19:40:24 GMT

Hey guys.

I'm trying the MC trial version out but am getting some issues. While trying to use what I already have digitized on my system, I'm importing AVI files and they seem to take some time. Also more imortant, when I scrub the timeline it's very jerky, when I hit play I get an error window and does not play. I did install the install3gb.exe thing rebooted and all worked well for a while then back to the error when trying to PB and jerky scrubbing again.

I'm also using a Canopus ADVC300 bob which did work once and now not.

Does this have to do with the ATI 1950 card or something else.

BTW 6gig of ram installed assigned 2700 to the install3gb.exe

What's going on, does my system meet the requirements here?

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Scott Myers — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 04:46:46 GMT

Mark and I discussed this via email. He got MC to load.

I prefer not using the OpenGL change so that the OpenGL version remains at its highest. The OpenGL version could affect some of the effects in MC.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Sylvain P — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:28:45 GMT

Also, the "force OpenGL 1.5" trick with RivaTuner is a second fix that has worked for other.

But as Scott said, look at the Avid's forum and make a search about your 9800XT in the Media Composer PC forum.

Me, I softmod my 8600GT to a Quadro FX 1700, but you cannot do that with your card.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Scott Myers — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:49:04 GMT

There is hardly anyone on this forum using MC, so your best bet for getting answers will be either on the Avid MC forum or on my Liquid/MC crossover forum. You can get to my forum by clicking on my signature.

My first guess at what's going wrong is the crash happens at loading the ACPL effects. Turning of "threaded optimization" for MC in the Nvidia control panel fixes that for the 8800 cards and might do it for your card. Other than that, try the Avid forum or my forum. The MC info was only posted here because of the now-expired upgrade deal for Liquid users.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

msusman — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:54:43 GMT

Interesting...I installed MC 3 on a Gateway FX system with Vista 64 and an Nvidia 9800GT. I cant get the software to load. It crashes back to the desktop about half way through the loading process. I just want to put it on a system to run it in a minimal configuration for learning purposes. Any ideas?

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Randy Martin — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:48:32 GMT

Thanks Steve for that ATI info - good to know as I am running Liquid with an ATI HD 2600 Pro ( 256 mb) and since its evident that Pinnacle will not be releasing the next gen until next year I need to switch to something else soon. I noticed that you use a WD Raptor as main drive - I just picked up two used 74 gb WD 740's and was wondering if it would be best to use them as mirrored RAID 1 Main drives or as striped RAID 0 for my edit / render drives. I also have 3 WD 500 gb and 1x 250 gb SATA's and two Nextstar hard drive docks (esata). Any advice on the best system configuration for Hard drive management on LIquid and/or Media Composer?

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

salexander — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:32:27 GMT

MC 3.0 seems to run fine under Vista 64 with an ATI 3850 (Catalyst 8.6) - can even do full screen and OpenGL effects. Surprising because I wasn't expecting this from an ATI card.... you know - nVidia only, etc.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Scott Myers — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:35:12 GMT

MC 3.0 is also running fine so far with both systems - the XP Pro SP3 desktop with an Nvidia 7600GT 256MB and the Vista Home Premium SP1 laptop with a built-in Nvidia 7000M 256MB dedicated/1279MB shared.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Scott Myers — Tue, 27 May 2008 01:56:33 GMT

My ATI X1300 Pro didn't fare as well in the OpenGL test in BCC but it seems to render fine anyway with both the BCC filter and with 3D Warp. I'll be using the Nvidia, though, instead.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

DStone — Tue, 27 May 2008 01:41:09 GMT

An update: I softmodded my X800XT to a FireGL X3-256, and I now have full-screen support with the AMD64 system (see the first post). Without the softmod I had to turn on the legacy overlay support (MC Console: LegacyOverlay On). So the AMD is fully up and running with OpenGL on an ATI.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Scott Myers — Mon, 26 May 2008 03:04:53 GMT

An effect which makes use of the GPU's 3D capabilities is 3D Warp. I've tested it on the laptop (Nvidia 7000M GPU) and it plays RT without rendering.

The laptop can also play 2 RT streams of 1080i HDV at the lowest-quality preview setting. This is the same performance I've had with Liquid using the same hardware. So, MC isn't having any more trouble with multiple streams than Liquid has with the same hardware. Where I think more difference in performance will be is when using OpenGL effects in MC. The major improvement, I think, with the Quadro cards is the OpenGL performance.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Scott Myers — Sun, 25 May 2008 23:50:15 GMT

Here is the dialog when checking the 7000M on my laptop. Boris' test couldn't say it was OK but manually enabling OpenGL for that card worked fine.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Scott Myers — Sun, 25 May 2008 23:38:19 GMT

The Nvidia 7000M on my laptop doesn't show as OpenGL "qualified" in the BCC test but I can manually enable OpenGL in that test dialog and use OpenGL effects without render problems. The test method is in the OpenGL PDF I attached in my MC docs thread.

The Nvidia 7600GT on my desktop showed as OpenGL qualified in the BCC test so I did not have to manually enable OpenGL. Rendering of OpenGL is fine.

With both cards/systems, I have to render the OpenGL effect to play it. I can scrub without rendering but playback shows black before rendering. With a Quadro, those effects would probably play RT or play with reduced frame rate, perhaps, instead of showing black.

To test the OpenGL of my ATI X1300 Pro, I'll have to swap cards again. That may have to wait a few days. I'll test that at my first chance.

Re: Unsupported System Configurations and Media Composer

Joachim Claus — Fri, 23 May 2008 17:36:32 GMT

I run both, Liquid Chrome Xe and MC on the same system without any problem. Initially I had installed the nvidia FX 3400. For some other reason (the FX 3400 does not support Blue Ray Disc files playing), I replaced the FX 3400 by a Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro, and both editing programs still run without any problem. The X1950 Pro has, hoever, a much lower Open GL performance, which I recognise when I use AJA's application "Machina". Video inlay is not smoth while recording. With the FX 3400 it was totally smooth video in the inlay while the program recorded uncompressed video.