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Re: SSD & Avid Studio

  •  08-11-2011, 5:48

    Re: SSD & Avid Studio

    I was running 3 WD Raptor HHD's when the boot drive gave out on me.


    Back then I was having to wait quite a while until effects etc would render, I had an older system that would take so long I'd get up and make something to eat and watch TV for a while before I could continue.


    Then when creating a disc I might as well have gone to town and goofed off for a while before it was done.


    When I upgraded to the Samsung SSD drive, render times and production of DVD's were so fast it blew me away. I figured it would be faster but I had no idea it would be that fast.


    You have to understand the difference between a HHD and a SSD. HHD's are a physically running piece of machinery that takes time to read and Write. A SSD has no moving parts and data transfer is almost instantaneous.




    You can call BS as long as you want, all I know is what I see with my own eyes.


    I've been producing video with Pinnacle software for years and all I know is my workflow has been sped up to the point it's fun to produce now that I don't have to wait anymore.............................





    If you can produce the same video using a 5400rpm HHD in the same time I can with an SSD, I'll buy you lunch, give you time to draw a crowd and I'll kiss your butt.


    My old Raptor drive running at 10,000rpm is no match to the speed I'm producing now so all I can say is I don't know what to tell you, I just know I'm VERY happy with what I have and I'll NEVER go back to HHD's again.

    As far as rendering changes within the video it is extremely faster. As for rendering a DVD or file I'd say it takes half the time or maybe a little less to produce both.

    When I produce Blu-Ray discs I always set the program to render 30fps because any faster is overkill and takes longer to produce with no visible improvements unless you're a professional videographer and you're really looking close.


    It sounds like you're confusing frame rate rendering in a video game to producing an actual video for Blu-Ray or DVD.

    All I know is what I see, and I see very high speeds which means less production time and more time to relax or get to the next paying project, and who wouldn't want that. ;O)

    P.S. I'm running Avid Studio 1.1

    IMO you are the one that is confused.


    Nobody is disputing the mechanics of the different disk technologies - as editors/techies we have all been around the block quite a few times on this particular subject, just as you say you have.


    The difference is that we are talking about the real AS1 world here, and there is not a single task in AS that can even come close to maxing out the disk throughput of even a lowly 5400rpm mechanical disk, and as long as that is the case SSDs will be even less taxed ito throughput. Post a screenshot of Taskmanager showing the maximum and sustained disk throughputs while AS is rendering one of your typical projects and if you come even close to a 1/4 of your SSDs sustained throughput I will eat my hat with my head in it

    I will gladly take you up on your challenge - you name the test, assemble the scenario of your own choice while using the standard AS supplied reference material with specs on TL and output format, post and host the project somewhere, and we can have a look-see about performance improvements seen - just to make sure we are talking apples and apple .............................. I am willing to bet you with the super duper SSDs  will see perhaps 1% improvement (if that) when compared to the lowly mechanical disks I am running here


    The generalities you posted above means nothing - we are interested in AS' performance as video editors and system builder.


    I think I have been around here building systems for Studio's use since the days of pre W2000 already, and at no time could I make either a striped raid or a SSD produce worthwhile render speed improvements or render time reductions of the order you are alleging here

    All I know is what I see, and I see very high speeds..........................

    Well - so do I (and with lowly non-SSD drives)Indifferent ...................... the question is what do you mean with "high speeds" and what/how are you comparing that speed to?

    Its no use, as a single person with a personal opinion you are entitled to, telling people to go out and spend money on SSDs when its been proven here many a time over that the ROI is very close to zero when talking AS


    Request - Please stop talking generalities - stick to repeatable/verifiable tests with AS only or else any recommendation you make is useless, even though your personal experience may lead you to believe SSDs are the next sliced bread.



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