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Title Jump workaround

Last post 08-18-2008, 6:57 by VSP. 9 replies.
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  •  11-13-2007, 12:04 63615

    Title Jump workaround

    REPORTING A BUG:
    1)text boxes with 2 or more text sizes will slightly move upward on the screen each time you go in and out of the edit menu function!  The motion is so drastic, that eventually, the text box disappears off the screen!!!

    FEATURE REQUEST:
    2)I am requesting that Pinnacle improve their edditing tools inside the menu or title options
    a) change fill-color of boxes and circles
    b) ability to send objects forward or backward (order-sequence)
    c) ability to create your own custom-design thumbnails.  Currently no way to import objects with a transparent hole in middle to be used as a functional and custom thumbnail.

     NEED MENU/TITLE UPGRADE (work-around found..thx)
     

  •  11-13-2007, 14:07 63664 in reply to 63615

    Re: MENU/TITLE FEATURE...REQUESTING UPGRADE

    Re: bug report

    That one is a well-known and very long-lived one; has been around since Studio 8. It is caused by the properties (font/size) of the text box itself being smaller than the text inside the box. Until such time as Pinnacle get around to fixing it your workaround is as follows:

    (a) Note the font and point size of the largest text anywhere inside that text box.
    (b) Click inside the text box so the I-beam text cursor appears. Hit CTRL/A (select all) and CTRL/C (copy)
    (c) Click on the edge of the text box so the grab-handles appear.
    (d) Use the font/size tools at the top to set the font and point size to those noted in (a). Don't worry that all of the text in the box is now that font/size; in (b) you put a copy of the original text on the clipboard.
    (e) Click inside the text box so the I-beam text cursor appears; hit CTRL/A (select all) then CTRL/V (paste) to put back the original text.
    (f) Put the text box where you want it on the screen; it should now stay put and not shift upwards if you save/re-open the title/menu.

    Re: Feature requests:

    (a) Can already do that - select the circle/rectangle and use the TEXT properties tool on the right ("custom" tab) to change the line/fill/shadow exactly as if you were doing it to a piece of text. Studio will even let you do silly things like having a circle that is underlined!
    (b) RTFM - Studio can already do that; use the Title | Layer menu or keyboard shortcuts to move the selected object forward/back one layer or sent to the front/back.
    (c) Not true; if you prepare your graphic in a form that supports transparency via an alpha channel (.TIF or .TGA - .I prefer TGA; Studio's own stock thumbnakil buttons are .TGA files) you can make semi-transparent graphics, thumbnail buttons etc. and Studio can qyuite happily import them into the title editor. I'm sure that someone has written a tutorial on how to do that using Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro - sorry, can't find the link right now.

    Edited - Found this thread with lots of useful info on transparency

    Regards,
    Richard

  •  11-13-2007, 14:13 63667 in reply to 63664

    Re: MENU/TITLE FEATURE...REQUESTING UPGRADE (**issue now resolved...thx)

    Perfect Play...to an important piece of editing info, that even for me, after countlesss/fulltime hours of using studio, I still did not know how to enable this feature.

    I think this link serves as a good document for all other users...Thanks again!

  •  03-19-2008, 17:56 140981 in reply to 63667

    Re: MENU/TITLE FEATURE...REQUESTING UPGRADE (**issue now resolved...thx)

    Pinned and Moved to the Edit section where it will help more users.
  •  03-28-2008, 2:41 145469 in reply to 140981

    Re: MENU/TITLE FEATURE...REQUESTING UPGRADE (**issue now resolved...thx)

    The link in Richard's post leads to a Post not found message.

    There seems to be something wrong here.

  •  03-28-2008, 6:09 145532 in reply to 145469

    Re: MENU/TITLE FEATURE...REQUESTING UPGRADE (**issue now resolved...thx)

    Link (I think this is the one that my posting was originally pointed at - it seemed to have acquired a new thread number! I have used the "permalink" syntax and linked to the first posting in the thread (read the whole thread to find the links to the tutorials etc.) - hopefully the link won't disappear again... Smile

     Another link that also discusses graphic transparency (again I have "permalinked" to the first post in the thread so you'll have to look at the whole thread to find the links to the tutorials etc.

    Regards,
    Richard

  •  03-28-2008, 13:00 145780 in reply to 145532

    Re: MENU/TITLE FEATURE...REQUESTING UPGRADE (**issue now resolved...thx)

    Thanks Richard.

    Yes 

  •  04-01-2008, 21:51 148121 in reply to 63615

    Re: Title Jump workaround

    THE TEXT BOX IS HANGING ONTO THE ORIGINAL FONT and SIZE. (and all properites for that matter)

    Also, 2 or more text sizes in a box is not required to get this 'inaccurate placement' text issue to occur. And the extensive multistep workaround doesnt seem necessary either, at least in what i have noticed. (I also didnt understand it, as i was instructed to copy, but not paste. ?)

    This painful bug seems to be caused by modifying an existing (aka original) text object (by changing the font and or size/shadow/outline) properties. After you do that, you can never get the font position to stay where you want it. (it really becomes impossible to place the text object accurately.) But the other posters a, b, c, d, e, f, steps dont seem necessary. Heres all you do:

    If you have modified the contents of a text box:

    1) place the cursor/I beam in the box; note the font name and size.

    2) click/select the font BOX (so that the yellow handles appear); make the font and size the same as noted in step 1.

    Done. You can now split, edit, change characters, etc and the Text object will stay kapoot.

    This also corrects having 2 lines of text, (all with the same font size people), splitting it, and removing one of the 2 lines for the 1st section. (the bug here is that the font placement jumps going from the 1st half, to the 2nd half.) 

  •  04-01-2008, 22:03 148125 in reply to 148121

    Re: Title Jump workaround

    Scratch that. All you do, is select the Text box, so that the yellow handles appear, and set all the properties for the text; font, size, edge, etc. You are good to go afterwards.

    (I think.)

     

     

  •  08-18-2008, 6:57 223009 in reply to 63664

    Re: MENU/TITLE FEATURE...REQUESTING UPGRADE

    What is it with pinnacle support?

    I have been struggling with this problem in Studio 12.  I requested assistance and ended up posting to them 12 screen shots illustrating this problem.  Eventually, their response was that they could not reproduce the problem!  As usual, they did not even do any research to find out that it was a known problem - known since Studio 8 apparently!

    The work around I found (for Studio 12) is quite simple - when I edit a title, I now save it (from the title editor) as a whatever.DTL file, then load these onto the timeline where required.  I found that the bug only seems to occur when the title editor saves the data to the timeline and not when it saves to a file. 

    ps. the re-moving the field in the title editor did not seem to help me.

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