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PS 17u: Strobe transition "inside" a Picture-in-Picture effect

Last post 01-02-2014, 17:03 by Horace Traynor. 2 replies.
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  •  12-28-2013, 16:33 618237

    PS 17u: Strobe transition "inside" a Picture-in-Picture effect

    Hello!

    I have been using PS 17u for about a week or so, and am really, really liking it.... 

    What I have: a 1920x1080 project with 9 picture-in-picture "tiles" filling up the screen, each at 640x360 and each on its own timeline track for editing.

    What I can get: For 3 of the tiles to pop onto the screen at the beginning (0:00) of the video, 3 more tiles a fraction of a second after that, and then the remaining 3 tiles a fraction of a second after that.

    What I can't get:  A strobe "In transition" on each of the individual tiles as they appear.  

    What is happening: Any strobe effect that I place on the first (top) picture-in-picture tile affects the entire 1920x1080 screen, not just the individual 640x360 tile.   (And actually even 'blacks out' all of the remaining tracks for the duration of the effect.)

     I guess what I was hoping is that adding a picture-in-picture effect would create a sort of "wrapper" around a clip, and anything else (transitions, etc.) would happen inside that wrapper (and not affect the rest of the 1920x1080 screen).  And that is the way some of the effects are working, such as slow motion speed, pan-and-zoom on still images, color changes, etc.  All of those effects are working just great on individual tiles.

    So.... Questions:

    1.  Any ideas on how to get that particular effect (strobe "in transition" on individual picture-in-picture tiles)?

     2. Any tips, ideas, comments, cautions or links that more experienced users can share with a new user about this entire concept involving Picture-in-Picture, transitions, etc.? 

     

    THANK YOU !!!

  •  12-28-2013, 18:53 618250 in reply to 618237

    Re: PS 17u: Strobe transition "inside" a Picture-in-Picture effect

    Because Strobe is a transition it's going to affect the whole clip. I can currently think of two ways to do this. You can make a project of the full screen clip with the transition, save it and then added it to a track and add the PIP to the subproject. You could also achieve the same effect as the transition using keyframed effects. I'd think the first methods would be quicker.

  •  01-02-2014, 17:03 618802 in reply to 618250

    Re: PS 17u: Strobe transition "inside" a Picture-in-Picture effect

    DTVPro:

    Because Strobe is a transition it's going to affect the whole clip. I can currently think of two ways to do this. You can make a project of the full screen clip with the transition, save it and then added it to a track and add the PIP to the subproject. You could also achieve the same effect as the transition using keyframed effects. I'd think the first methods would be quicker.

     

    DTVPro:

    Because Strobe is a transition it's going to affect the whole clip. 

      Hi DTVPro!    That is what I thought at first.  But after a lot of practicing with it, I can report that it depends on the transition.  The simple fade and dissolve transitions definitely do NOT affect the entire 1920x1080 frame, just the individual Picture-in-Picture clip (track) that they have been applied to (which is what I want to happen).  And the same is true for some of the other transitions, like "Sun Wipe", "Bubbles" and "Falling Crystals", as well.    All of those transitions affect only the individual PiP clip (track), not the entire 1920x1080 frame.   Which, again, is what I would want to happen.

    I guess it really is just transition specific, and however that particular transition was programmed.   Starting with 9 tracks, with a PiP clip on each of them, The "Strobe" transition affects whatever track it has been applied to, and then all other tracks BELOW it.   So even "Strobe" isn't even affecting the entire 1920x1080 frame, just any tracks below it on the timeline.   (When I wrote the OP I had only tested it on the top-most track, which is why at that time I assumed it affected the entire frame.)

     Oh well.  I guess it just comes down to experimenting and observing if the transition can do what you want, or not.  Each transition could behave different from others.

     Thanks for those work-around ideas, that is exactly what I will go to if I really have my heart set on a transition that doesn't play inside a PiP box.... !

     

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