FIMoore:

For a PC that is used strictly for media creation (Liquid, Adobe Production Suite, SmartSound and etc) what benefit does W7 offer other than speed.  Is there a compelling reason to abandon tried & true XP? 

Fred, if you upgrade, you want to go to 64 bits, 32 bits will not give you so much better performance.

If you go 64 bits, Vista or W7, you should have at least 8 gigs of ram, your Adobe suite, especially AE, will love it.

Liquid, I believe, cannot use more than 2 gigs of ram.

You will also, and that will even happen with a 32 bits system of Vista or W7, get a lot more memory on your Videocard as the OS is letting your sys share system memory to the Video card.

So, the winner is AE and using advanced Vitascene effects in Liquid

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I have this little nice thing to show regarding system usage in Vista 64

 

 

and a similar test with Liquid with W7 64 bits shows that the described 2 gig usage limit is correct

 

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but also that Liquid is able to use the extended memory you are getting with a Vista or W7 system

 

mjolnarn:

and a similar test with Liquid with W7 64 bits shows that the described 2 gig usage limit is correct

But I have seen L7 using more than 2G with the /L switch in Vista64 - so I would expect it to do the same with W7 64

Having said that, it may not have been a huge advantage - I remember it actually used between 2 and 2.5, and unless it can use more than two cores it really doesn't have any use for say 6G ram.

I'd like to add a subthread to this thread. As we all know, Liquid's various hardware boxes (The Pro BOB, MBD, 700/710-USB, etc.) do not work on Vista or W7. However, with W7's virtual XP, I'm wondering if this is still true. Can someone test this out? Conceptually this should work as you can install XP only drivers on the virtual machine.

One downside to the 3/gig switch for 32bit XP as provided for in an MC utility is that the capture video overlay does not work in Liquid and Studio

Hi John,

Change to Windows 7 as  soon as possible. XP was absolutey terrific, Windows 7 is even better. Why, because it's faster, it's got more goodies, it looks and act like it's today, because it is, and Liquid 7 works an absolute dream in side it.

I've had Win 7 for a number of weeks, and apart from having to use Tilte Deko Pro, which I don't like, prefering standard, Win 7 has proved stable and fast.

I have used all areas of Liqud 7, and there is not one part of it ( exceptt standard Title Deko) that doesn;t work as good if not better in Win 7.

I don't know where you got the idea of a bad migration, Yes in Window 7 RC, which was a beta program, there were of course somw drivers missing, we new that, with the full version, I has no problems at allI migrating.

Go for it.

regards

Pete Rhodes

Australia 

I glued a machine (AMD 6000XP, AMD 780 chipset) for the Beta back in January, installed the RC over the Beta. Has worked like a charm. I purchased the Pro version at half price when it was offered. I'll install it on the next build...

peter rhodes:

Hi John,

Change to Windows 7 as  soon as possible. XP was absolutey terrific, Windows 7 is even better. Why, because it's faster, it's got more goodies, it looks and act like it's today, because it is, and Liquid 7 works an absolute dream in side it.

Pete Rhodes

Australia 

What is your computer, Pete?

We need to be careful here. The ProBOB does not have any 64-bit drivers and does not work under Vista 64 and I have not seen any reports of its working under W7. Until we know where that stands, if you have Liquid Pro, I would stay on XP (or maybe Vista 32 if you want to experiment).

peter rhodes:

Hi John,

Change to Windows 7 as  soon as possible. XP was absolutey terrific, Windows 7 is even better. Why, because it's faster, it's got more goodies, it looks and act like it's today, because it is, and Liquid 7 works an absolute dream in side it.

I've had Win 7 for a number of weeks, and apart from having to use Tilte Deko Pro, which I don't like, prefering standard, Win 7 has proved stable and fast.

I have used all areas of Liqud 7, and there is not one part of it ( exceptt standard Title Deko) that doesn;t work as good if not better in Win 7.

I don't know where you got the idea of a bad migration, Yes in Window 7 RC, which was a beta program, there were of course somw drivers missing, we new that, with the full version, I has no problems at allI migrating.

Go for it.

regards

Pete Rhodes

Australia 

Pete,

You mention that TD Pro is the only version that works in W7 and that you don't like it.  What is the difference between them (TD Pro vs. TD RT) which is not to your liking?  I have used both and find not much difference.  My Liquid 7 came with a separate disk with TD Pro on it and I installed that one.  It has been working well for me.

Hi Tim,

I have it on all four computers.

Video Compter

Intel D, Pentium 4, 3.00ghz CPU 4 gig ram, 3.2 usable. 32 bit OS. Also I don't use BOB.

Main and office Computer

Intel 2 quad Q8400, 2.66CPU, 4 gig (3.2 usable

Laptop NEC, similiar to above, and a Ultra Portable Wind MSI 2 gig ram, not sure of other specs. all work perfectly.

 Regarding Title Deko Pro, it is a personall, and possibly a silly thing, but just feel it's not as easy as standard. But as I feel with liquid, it's the best around. 

regards

Pete

Australia

 

Today I have installed and run Liquid 7.2 including TitleDeko Pro using the Compatability Mode option using Windows 7 Home Premium Edition.

The compatability mode options which were there in Vista are present in W7 Home Premium.

What is missing is a new virtualisation system which provides in theory a lower level 100% XP compatability for driver problems.  This may provide a solution for using the Pro Bob but isn;t needed tio install and run TitleDeko Pro.

 

I just got my Windows 7 upgrade version from the Microsoft site.  It is listed as an upgrade to Vista, not XP, which I am currently running.  On the box is a statement that once upgraded from XP all of my applications, settings and documents have to be restored to the disk.  For any of you who have already done the upgrade, is this the case?  Am I better off getting the full version of W7 and wipe the disk and start from scratch?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks,

Denny

My understanding is that you cannot upgrade from XP.  It is a clean install.

 FWIW.  I have been running the beta W7 chose to add an extra drive so that I could keep XP intact as a ‘back up’  fully functioning OS.   In my case my old XP shows as drive F:\ and is accessible from Win7, which make it easy to copy data across to the new system.  Switching from one OS to another is via BIOS at boot time.

Avid installed easily including the ability to run TDRT.  A graphics driver update was required to avoid a  ’ black’ preview screen using HDV (SD was OK with initial driver). 

Best advice I can offer is make a list of all the programmes and data you need and don’t rush.

Best of luck Geoff

I have been using the Pro Bob on windows 7 32 bit since the Beta. Just plug it in and allow it to download the driver and you are good to go.

DJ:

I have been using the Pro Bob on windows 7 32 bit since the Beta. Just plug it in and allow it to download the driver and you are good to go.

Yes, I believe that the install thread works even with W7 and with the same demands, I have updated it a little, please tell me the differences you are seeing between Vista and W7 regarding Liquid installs

Only major difference I have seen is that in windows 7 the secondary color correction doesn't seem to work. You can adjust the colors but as soon as you exit the editor it reverts to the original.  Is anyone having similar problems?

might be videocard related, I am seeing an empty profile when clicking your name regarding what card you are using

Sir would you please help me run My Liquid on my New PC

I just bought a New Pc running

• 2.70GHz Intel® Processor
• Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
• 500GB hard drive
• 4GB RAM
• NIVIDA graphic 256Mb

Please! I really want run liquid on this computer 

Thanks

Read this thread. It tells you how to install Liquid under these operating systems. Liquid is not supported under anything but XP Pro and Home but users here have been successful getting it to run under Vista and Windows 7.

Reading this thread I read that only TDPro will work with Windows 7.  This is simply not the case. 

 

Once Avid is installed elect not to install TDRT and finish the main installation. Now go to the TDRT and install in compatibility mode. It does work.  The procedure is exactly as described by Tomas except that the ‘RT folder is selected instead of the ‘Pro folder

It is possible that that RT did not work in the W7 beta but it certainly works with the full retail W7.  

 

I accidently allowed the default installation to complete and sure enough Rt did not work.  At this stage I uninstalled TD via the control panel and immediately reinstalled TD as described above. It works correctly. I had concerns at first as the text fonts were rotated 90deg but scrolling down the ‘font window’ revealed the fonts I was expecting.

 

So we now have a choice of which TD programme to use.  I guess most opt for ‘Pro but the option to load ‘RT is available.

mjolnarn:

might be videocard related, I am seeing an empty profile when clicking your name regarding what card you are using

Have tried it on several computers with both ATI and Nvidia cards and have the same issues.  It use work with the beta but since the RC I have had the problem.  

I installed Liquid everything is working fine except there is a Log message any time I load Liquid. which say Power user rights required (UMI and have to reset.

Plus my image is shaking. I even burned a dvd with a phot montage and music but the playback is shaky

• Pc running ◦2.70GHz Intel®
• Processor ◦Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
• 500GB hard drive ◦4GB RAM
• NIVIDA graphic 256Mb

 

I am still on the fence regarding the upgrade to W7, and here are my questions or what I have read here.

I am using Photohsop CS4 xt - AL 7.2 with pro bob- vitascene-hereoglyph- I'm a beta tester for NewBlue fx which are great,- canopus advc -300 - wacom tablet.

I would like a 64 bit os for the obvious and am wondering if I install win 7 prem 64 bit and run xp compatibility mode will the pro bob work and the rest of the above listed software fx and hardware work in this compatiblity mode regarding the ones that dont like 64 bit.

Does installing 64 bit w7 mean xp compatibility will also be 64 bit then or can you choose.

Also can you purchase a 64 bit os and disable the 64 bit in the installation so that you can install both 32 and 64 on a dual boot?

make sense