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Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

Last post 01-05-2017, 23:17 by Sparks. 13 replies.
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  •  01-03-2017, 14:00 728690

    Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    I recently bought a second-hand Finepix W3 camera to experiment with creating 3D slide-shows and movies in Studio20. Using the stills (.MPO) was not a problem, as Studio understood the format, but using the movies (.AVI) it produces was a different story. This is because the L/R channels are stored in the AVI as two separate streams. In fact I have not found any player yet that understands how to display these files. The only way I could view them was to use the camera via HDMI lead to my 3DTV, but I wanted to be able to edit them and save in a format that could be shown on a wider range of devices such as cellphones/tablets, YouTube, and VR glasses.

    I tried a few file conversion programs without much success - the best I could do was to break out the two streams into separate AVI files. I persevered for some time trying to find a method that really worked without compromising quality, and finally came up with a solution using Fuji's MyFinePixStudio (on Fuji's CD, or download from web), but this in itself was a bit of a 'treasure-hunt' since it was not immediately obvious how to convert files into a format that Studio understands. I also found that there was something that I had to do to the file in Studio itself to get it to recognise it as 3D (I also found the same thing has to be done to any 3D files created by Studio itself before the timeline treats them as 3D! - even though the timeline itself has been set to 3D).

    Studio understands WMV 3D format, so convert file to WMV using MyFinePixStudio

    • 1. Open MyFinePixStudio. 

    • 2. Click 'View Images' 

    • 3. R-Click on video file (.avi) 

    • 4. Select 'Tools' 

    • 5. Select '3D Tools Pallet' 

    • 6. Click '3D Movie Trimming' 

    • 7. Set save-format to 'WMV for 3D TV' 

    • 8. Click 'Save'

    • 9. Choose a save location 

    • 10. Confirm Save, and wait while file is converted. 


    Now we prepare the WMV file for editing in Studio.

    • 1. Open Pinnacle Studio.

    • 2. Select 'Organise' tab

    • 3. R-Click on chosen WMV movie file

    • 4. Select 'Open Corrections'

    • 5. Select 'Adjustments'

    • 6. Select 'Stereoscopic'

    • 7. Choose '3D Side-by-Side 50%'

    • 8. Click OK.

    This file can now be added to the timeline, and edited normally as a 3D movie, and saved in a variety of formats suitable for the target device.

    I hope you find this useful.

     

  •  01-03-2017, 21:22 728740 in reply to 728690

    Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    I'm ringing the bell of our 3D specialist to see what he can say about your solution.

    Thanks.

  •  01-04-2017, 14:00 728782 in reply to 728690

    Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Hello

    Best wishes for a Happy New Year
    I have just returned from a holiday and I apologize for the delay.
    Studio 20 accepts Fujifilm W1 and W3 Jpeg files.
    I have these devices myself.
    I prepare this afternoon my method to work with AVI files multiflux
    cordially
    Jacques
  •  01-04-2017, 15:04 728783 in reply to 728690

    Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Attachment: importation 001.JPG
    Here's the solution:
    1 - Import video files into studio 20.
    Indeed they are not recognized in 3D. These are Multistream AVI files.
    2 - Double click on the thumbnail to open the media editor

  •  01-04-2017, 15:05 728784 in reply to 728783

    Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    2 - Media editor
  •  01-04-2017, 15:12 728786 in reply to 728784

    Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    3 - Click on Adjustment
    4 - The video property window opens
    5 - Click on "Custom Settings"
    6 - In the list choose "Fuji Wx 3D"

    In the media import window the thumbnail is recognized as 3D

    cordially
    The

  •  01-04-2017, 15:16 728788 in reply to 728786

    Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Make corrections as for photographs.
    Do the editing and make as you want (Side by side 50%, or multistream.)
    I remain at your disposal
     
    Cordialy
    Jacques 

  •  01-04-2017, 21:55 728819 in reply to 728788

    Re: Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Hi Jacques,

    Well, there's a revelation!

    I spent hours searching the User Guide looking for advice like this - but I suppose I didn't ask it the right questions. Now I know the answer, I have looked at the UG again and see that there are vague references to adjustments and corrections that can be made to the library database which was not an area that I was concentrating on.

    Anyway, thank you for your advice, I tried it tonight and it works well. I wonder how many other little secrets Studio has hidden in its depths...

    My efforts were not entirely in vain, as I now know how to use the Fuji program to create WMVs, which will be useful to me elsewhere.

    Something that needs looking at however, is the fact that 3D Movies made with Studio, and automatically added to the library, are not tagged as such in its database. So, if they are dragged back onto the timeline they are treated as 2D, even though the timeline mode is 3D.

     

     

  •  01-04-2017, 22:12 728822 in reply to 728819

    Re: Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Sparks:

    I spent hours searching the User Guide looking for advice like this - but I suppose I didn't ask it the right questions. Now I know the answer, I have looked at the UG again and see that there are vague references to adjustments and corrections that can be made to the library database which was not an area that I was concentrating on.

    Vague ?

    From PS20's user manual :

    • page 52 : An important purpose of the media correction tools is to allow you to make ‘adjustments’ on material that is not correctly identified automatically. With video footage, for example, the Adjustments group of tools allows you to override the Library-assigned aspect ratio, interlace mode and stereoscopic 3D format.
    • page 139 + 148 : Adjustments
      During import, Studio automatically detects certain parameters, but a variety of factors can lead to the occasional incorrect identification. Adjustments allows any of these basic image properties to be changed, if needed.
    • page 144 : Stereoscopic 3D: The icon and dropdown arrow to the left of the loop play button let you choose amongst several modes for viewing 3D material. The icon has a different appearance for each mode.
      If your video is in 3D, but the dropdown arrow does not appear, go to Adjustments to choose the correct 3D setting. See “Adjustments” on page 139 for more information.
    • page 297 : If Studio has not correctly identified your 3D media, choose the correct setting from the Stereoscopic 3D dropdown in the Adjustments group of Corrections tools. Please see “Adjustments” on page 148 for details.
  •  01-05-2017, 12:03 728838 in reply to 728822

    Re: Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Hello
    For the videos made with the W3, remember that it is 720p at 24 images / S
    I have a friend who programmed a toolbox for fujifilm and to make corrections.in 3D
    StereoPhoto Maker
    StereoMovie Maker
      Http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/
    Http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stvmkr/



    Good shots and good editing.
    cordially
  •  01-05-2017, 13:43 728847 in reply to 728822

    Re: Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    saby:
    Vague ?

    Yes, I think it must be. I visit several enthusiast movie forums (non-product related) and this Fuji-AVI/Studio problem has come up several times over the past 2-3 years without resolution.

    The usual advice is to move over (down?) to Magix (yikes!). I have just seen a post on the 3D forum here from some time ago, where I see someone else is suggesting to do what I did to overcome a similar problem, so I am not alone in failing to find the answer in the UG that was kindly detailed by Jacques.

    I have spent a little while this morning interpreting the 4CC codes embedded in the video files and conclude this -

    • The Finepix files are identified as being Fuji, and containing 2 video streams. Therefore I see no reason why Studio cannot identify the AVI as being stereoscopic, especially given that the Fuji stereo cameras were the most popular ones around.

    • Other files, such as MP4, WMV, etc. have nothing to identify them as 3D or their stereoscopic format (SBS, UD, Anaglyphic etc.). But when Studio adds an exported 3D file to the Library, I do not understand why this info is not added to its entry into the Library database.

    It is unusual for a seasoned Studio user like myself to be stumped over problems like this, but we usually persevere to develop a work-around as I did rather than switch to another product. Imagine what it must be like for a user with little patience or technical knowledge...

     

  •  01-05-2017, 14:02 728850 in reply to 728838

    Re: Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Hi Jacques, 

    jacques72:

    Hello
    For the videos made with the W3, remember that it is 720p at 24 images / S
    I have a friend who programmed a toolbox for fujifilm and to make corrections.in 3D
    StereoPhoto Maker
    StereoMovie Maker
      Http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/
    Http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stvmkr/

    Good shots and good editing.
    cordially

    Yes, I have these two superb free utilities, and use them often. Very useful programs - especially SPM for producing various format printed stereographs.

    I was not aware of the Fujifilm toolbox in SMM - is this a plug-in?

    Regarding 24 fps, I always make 3D movies at 30fps which shares the same factor 3, and reduces flicker with shuttered glasses. 

    Cheers, 

  •  01-05-2017, 15:51 728856 in reply to 728850

    Re: Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Hello

    Masuji Suto has developed these two small software (which I call my toolbox) to precisely perform corrections on 3D images and 3D Video not necessarily for the W3 but finds its application for these files. For my slideshows that I realize with the W3, I use stereoPhoto Maker to align the photos and then I use Studio 20 for editing.
    For videos from the W3 I use StereoMovie Maker to align the two videos and I save in Mjpeg Side by side 100% (2560x720) to remount them with Studio 20.

    What is lacking in its 3D software is the automatic alignment correction (Horizontal, Vertical and rotation) - this is necessary with the W3 because between the two objectives there is a small rotation error.
     
    This is not plugin for Studio. 
  •  01-05-2017, 23:17 728906 in reply to 728856

    Re: Re:Editing Fuji Finepix 3D movies in Studio - here's how

    Hi Jacques,

    I misunderstood you. I thought you meant your friend had written a fuji-related 'toolbox' (plugin) for these programs. I did not realise that he was the author of SPM and SMM themselves. Please tell him how much his efforts are appreciated out here.

     

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