I'm working on a clip of an wedding reception. Because of the length of this clip, appr. 30 min., I want to devide it in to 4 equal parts, place it on 4 different video tracks, leaving 1 sound on the soundrack and remoce the other 3. Then I start to resize the 1st clip to 50% and put it to the left corner. Then the 2nd clip to 50% and to the right site.

This is a rather time taking proces. Calculating (coversing) length of clip to it's new length, calculate next time cutting etc. Further when using 2D editir always the first time a change the size to 50% it's not lineair, so undo the change, and for the second time changing it will be lineair and not ''zooming in''. The same I noticed with the position changement.

I looked on several pages and subjects but could not find something about this. Multicam is in my idea also not a solution for this.

 So I have this questions: 

 Is there anyway anyhow a possibility to make devide a clip in equal parts more quickly/efficiently ? 

How can I (force) that the 2d editor does take lineair changement?

When I was using 2d editor clip 1 to 3 went (without small problems described above) ok. Then the 4th would not make the changes of size and position after ending the 2d editor. I selected the 4th clip again and after 3 times the 4th clip accepted the changes, but presents on the timeline black picons on start and end of th clip.

After copying and placing back the 4 tracks in the project's timeline the 4th didn't present and remain black. I forced it to render and let it export to file and place it in the main project timeline. Now it's working, but after lolts of time losing for render and export. The new clip is only 8:19 long but takes me about 1:15 hour to (re)produce it on the timeline.

Si if there's anybody who has an idea of better processing this kind of things please let me know.

THX a lot for responding!

Harry      

I am really unclear of what you are trying to accomplish here in terms of workflow but it sounds like you really want to use the multicam feature of Liquid to cut back and forth between the four tracks. Read about muticam in the manual.

There is no way to have Liquid calculate how to divide the clip into four equal sections. You need to do that manually. That should not be very difficult if you know the total clip length (and Liquid will tell you that). Just divide that by the number of sections you want, put a mark in at the start of the first section, type in your duration to have Liquid place the mark out, then  I would then create a subclip of that section, then put the mark in where the mark out was, type in the duration again, etc  and then muticam those sub clips based on mark in. The first clip (camera 1) will then become your sound source and you can switch between clips (cameras) by just clicking in the source viewer. You can have up to 16 clips in the source viewer at the same time. No need to use the 2D editors.

Thx Lew,

 I will again go back to the manual for rereading the multicam possibilities. The problem is in my idea that multicam is just for captured clips and taken part of a clip from the timeline.

 

Nope. Any clips in a rack can be multicamed. If you make a series of subclips from a single clip you can then multicam those subclips.

Lew,

Thx, the principle of subclips, after fingering out exactlty how to do, is working great! 

Then i've got back to the multicam part of the manual but cannot find the solution for the option of 4 clips on the same time on the screen, easy choosing cam 1 to 4 yes, but not all 4 on the same time.

+------------------+-----------------+

+  clip 1        +  Clip 2       + 

+------------------+ ----------------+

+  clip 3        +  Clip 4       +

+------------------+-----------------+

In this way I want to present it on 1 (or more ) track(s) on the timeline. When I, without any choosing form multicam function insert it to timeline only clip 1 is presented. What action should I take to put the clips 1 to 4 as described here above to the timeline?

Thx for the time

 

"How can I (force) that the 2d editor does take lineair changement?"

In the 2D editor there are three tabs along the top.  Click on Keyframe interpolation and you will see a graph for the movement of the clip.  There is a little box at each end of the graph line.  Right click on the first box and a dropdown menu appears.  Interpolation will be listed.  Place the cursor on that and the three choices for interpolation appear to the right.  Click on the linear and the graph line will straighten out.  The unwanted "floating" of the clip will disappear.  You will have to do this for every clip and every change within the keyframes as bezier is the default setting.

 Does this help?

You create the multicam clip by selecting your subclips, right click, create your multicam clip and put that clip in the source viewer. You then play the clip and click on the shot you want as the clip plays. Each time you click you will see a marker on the timeline ruler of the source viewer. When done, just send that clip to the timeline. It will show up on the timeline exactly like you switched it. You can then touch it up on the timeline.

Watch the multicam training video here. Third one down.

That's it Melvin, thx

 Lew, I want 4 clips at the same time on the final DVD screen, so not just 1 out of four.

I make every clip 50% of it's original size and then place 1st in left-upper corner, 2nd in upper right corner, 3th in left-down corner and 4th in right-down corner. In my opinion you can't do that with multicam function, at least I can't found that in the manual

It seems that you want to do a picture in picture effect that would place each clip on 1/4 of the screen.  To do that you need to use the 2D or 3D editor on each clip, then resize and place the clips in the corner you want them in.  Is that in fact what you are trying to accomplish???

Denny

And you need to turn off the keyframes on the option tab of the effects editor unless you are moving the boxes into position.

Harry

Here is a thought about how to get everything on screen and running to the end.  Put all four clips stacked on the four timelines with the longest one on top and all lined up at the right end.  At the left end have the longest on top and the shortest on the bottom with the next shortest on the second line and second longest on the next to top line.  Use the 2d editor to shrink the top clip and move it smoothly into the position you want.  The next clip down will then be on screen.  Shrink the second clip and position it and part of the next clip down will be on screen.  Then shrink and position the last two clips in turn.  If you carefully choose the point at which you are razor cutting the clips so that the first few seconds of each clip do not have vital scenes in them You might find the effect quite effective.  The whole effect could take place quite rapidly, say one second for each zoom-out. 

Just a thought.  Hope it is helpful.  

Thx a lot guys!!

Melvin is exactly describing the procedure what i'm usually using.

So there is not a more smarter or quicker way to make this 4 PIP in 1. As a former Premiere user I have to tell that it was much quicker and easier in P. I know that I'm not experienced with LE, but in editing I make for hobby and promoting own company about 8 years now.   

But again the help from all of you here was very helpfull and I find out workarounds for speeding this 'procedure'

Harry

To my understandment, you want to use the multicam feature and choose all cams at the same time, I don´t think that Liquid can do that.

What you can try is to create four containers of your origin clip, stack them above eachother and go into them and choose separate cams, you will add the 2d editor to the entire container when you have stepped out of it.

Don´´t know if this will work and I doubt that it will save any time for you but give it a try and tell if it is possible.

Just a thought ...

You don't have to do any real work to accomplish this. Put your four clips on four video tracks on the timeline, go to Classic Clip FX>Presets>2D PiP and you will find the following presets:

4cnrBL, 4cnrBR, 4cnrTL and 4cnr TR. Apply to the clips as required and you are done. As these are Classic effects they are very high quality but will have to render first.

Done.

Thanks a lot Lew!  This is what I was looking for, really great!

When you should not be so far away I was passing over for a drink together ;)

 Harry 

I just made another one. Started new Sequence 'Reception' in same project of wedding. The original time of the clip was 56 min. Made 4 parts of it 14min and place it on tracks 1 - 4. Using the 4cnr TL etc on the clips. So far very much OK. Then it started automatic rendering. Looked by clicking on <sigma> and then it presents the window with additional info: more then  6,5 hour rendertime! Oeps, is this really ok?  

Now I can't do anything with LE, because when I go back to 'mainsequence' the render proces aborts and by going back to 'Reception' render proces started all over new.

Harry

Yes, with four fourteen minute clips to render, that render time could be correct. Are you really going to show a four way split screen for 14 minutes??? That seems very odd. If in fact you are going to do that, I would create the split with the RT 2D CPU or GPU editors instead of using the presets. This will still have to render at the end of the project but you can preview it in realtime.

Thx again Lew! It is not that I want to present that to the final DVD, but getting informstions, I'll try everything out of course. So, that's why now. But it's a good training to go through all this facilities, then I can make a more fundamented decission making from situation to situation. I noticed already for example by using the 4cnr lib's that the picture auality ( Brightness) is better then by using the 2D possibility 

Try the 2D CPU editor, not the GPU editor.

How do I move these two clips to the right about 10 secs. Seems I should be able to use the hand and drag and drop them. Apparenetly that makes too much sense.  

 

I am to the point of just gpoing and recording the clip again.. a real shame.

 

THANKS, for any help you can give.

 

thanks

jack

Make sure all tracks are active in the header and that you are in Overwrite mode (red insert icon, see page 411 of the PDF manual) then use the Select after playline tool (see page 414 of the PDF manual) and select the clips you want to move. Then hold down the left mouse button and drag the clips to the point on the timeline you want them moved to.

I suggest you pick up a copy of Paul Ekerts book on Liquid from Amazon, it is a good basic tutuorial on how to use Liquid.