I created two menus, M1 and M2, put a NEXT button on M1, but the next button does not show the M2 menu when I click it. I assume I must be doing something wrong. Can someone tell me what the right 1,2,3 way to do multi menu devleopement. Te hel p in st was not clear to me. In past versions of studio, I have been able to create multi menu projects. I am working in st 11.1 ultimate.

The next button is for a multi-page menu (One menu with several pages), when you have separate second menu you have to use a normal button to jump that menu.

Have a close look at the menu lists, some are the Main menu eg PLAY MOVIE - SCENE SELECTION and others are for the SUB menu EG SELECT SCENE ONE, SCENE TWO etc.

I may be wrong but when I use the same type of menu then the SCENE SELECT automatically jumps to the second menu where you can then select the next scene.

Let us know how you get on!

Are you referring to the button encircled in yellow as "Next"? Please see the image attached.

When I said NEXT, I was referring to the button type called 'Next' in the dropdown list of button  types in the menu editting screen. see pic below

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GHuck had the right answer in his earlier reply...

1. The "Next" (and "Previous") button is used if you have more chapters that will fit on one page of the menu; Studio will automatically add extra pages to the menu as you set the links - the "Previous" and "next" buttons let you flip between those pages of the same menu.

2. To link to another menu you must use a "Normal" button - but there is nothing to stop you from taking an arrow graphic from a "Next" button and using that as your "Normal" button (just drag the button out of the gallery into your menu and change its type to "Normal button").

Regards,
Richard

Thanks for clarifying that and thanks for stepping in Richard.

I was not talking about an the figure of an arrow, but the kind of button called a Next button in Pinnacle's lexicon. If the next button in that dropdown list of button types in the menu editing form is simply just another button, then why does Pinnacle tease it out as a separate type of button the attributes of which a  user can assign to a button he or she is creating on the menu ? WHat distinguishes this from a thumbnail button , for example?

I do now see that I can use a thumbnail to transfer control to M2 and from M2 back to M1, thank you.

 

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Let's see if a can explain this a different way. The next and previous buttons are for changes a multi-page menu, that is a menu that has let's say 5 normal buttons on it, but you have link in 6 or more Index's, you now have a multi-page single menu. By definition this is one menu with more then on page. Now you can do the same thing with two separate menus that you create yourself, but when you do it this way, you have to use the normal buttons to jump between menu.

The next button type is used for multiple page menus, it's used to scroll through the pages of a multiple page menu and not for switching to other independent menus.

all, thanks for the clarification. There is a distinction between one menu - multipage and an independent menu.

another question: can an independent menu work with a multipage menu in one project? Can I have the following design:

one independent menu, M1, with  two thumbnail buttons on it. One thumbnail go to a clip w/ RTM, the other a thumbnail that links to an adjoining menu, M2, with M2 being a multipage menu?

M1 (an independent menu)

thumbnail1 ----> clip w/ RTM

thumbnail2 ----> M2 menu

M2 is a multipage menu

 

 

I tried this  and it did  seem to work. thanks again making clear the distinction between the diff menus.  I had to shift the clip to which I was linking to sit next to M1 to get it to work.

As I have said many times before - you edit the menu structure after links are formed at your peril. What you are attempting is certainly possible but I wouldn't attempt it as an add on to the structure and expect success. The downside to the concept and why I didn't suggest it the other thread is you need a way to navigate from menu 2 back to menu 1. Menu 2 being a multi-page menu means the only practical way you have of doing it, is to use the dreaded Root button which has mixed amounts of success. Yes possible, but I'd be saving project to new name - strip of the menus and start again with them, placing menu 1 on timeline 1st then menu two and then your linking, completing one menu links before starting the other 

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I tried this  and it did  seem to work.  I had to shift the clip to which I was linking to sit next to M1 to get it to work.

Mike - the reason its called a thread is that it links. Please don't ask a question on the forum and then remove the whole question by editing it and saying it now works. In the meantime someone else (me) answers the question which is no longer there and the "thread is lost" If you are going to edit please do so by addition rather than complete replacement or better still create a new post. Maybe there is a good reason for replying with a quote

My bad, cr1. I should have err'd on too much info in the thread. I know I already post a lot  (of questions), so I wanted to remove one; thought I did it quick enough, but not so. Sorry about the quick remove of it, and I appreciate your input into this and other issues I have been asking about.

In fact, like the weather - in chicago and in merry ol' england - in Studio, too, wait a few minutes, and it'll change. That menu that I just sketched above that I thought was working, I have a question / problem on it. Given that I have a M1 and M2 adjoining next to each other, I noticed that when I click 'return to dvd menu' (on studio's dvd sim for right now), I go to the M1 menu. To get to the next chapter I have to go forward through several chapters - kinda tedious. Previously, when I just had the M2 as the main, and only,  (multipage) menu, studio went to the last page on the menu that I was on - which is preferable to going all the way back to the first menu *all the time*. In fact, ideally, I 'd like a button to get me back to the root based on user ctl.

Is there any way to return control to the last page of a multipage menu that I was on when issuing the return to dvd menu if you have two menus, an independent and a multipage menu,  in the same project?

 

I believe (Have not tried this) the return to menu will return to the menu that has the same color of the return to menu flag. Don't put two return to menu flags on top if each other, that will force studio to guess at which one to return to.

After rendering (4 hrs) to a disc image, I discovered that, at least in nero showtime, which itself is a sw sim of a dvd player, when I clicked 'return to root', I returned to the last page of the multi page menu I was just on - precisely what I was asking for here. I'll see what my hw dvd players do after I burn the image.  Nero Showtime also had a return to TITLE menu as an option, which returned me to the first, M1, menu - even better, as far as user ctl goes ! I am not sure what is standard in hw dvd ctlrs - "root", "title", dunno.

Apparently  the left double arrow in the Studio dvd sim control is different than others' controls, and is pretty rough and basic. So one should take the results of the studio dvd sim with a grain of salt.