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HD timeline to the WEB

Last post 09-04-2009, 20:10 by Smetvid. 7 replies.
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  •  09-04-2009, 6:47 335524

    HD timeline to the WEB

    G'day

    I have several 8 minute videos in 1280x720 50p PAL which I need to get to the WEB.

    the client wants to stream them from his WEB site using Windows media player.

    I have tried using several of the settings in Liquid, ranging from file sizes 25mb to 200mb, but i'm not that happy with the quality.

    Should I be doing something with the Timeline before encoding to .wmv?

    Should I be outputing a .avi to a seperate encoder, like Procoder?

    Thanks 

  •  09-04-2009, 7:07 335533 in reply to 335524

    Re: HD timeline to the WEB

    Others will give you a better answer but I think the WMV export is outdated in Liquid. I generate an AVI file and use Expression. Procoder would also be good as would, probably a number of things you could find cheap or free.
  •  09-04-2009, 7:24 335541 in reply to 335533

    Re: HD timeline to the WEB

    Liquid has very high quality output of wmv files of Hd media, I have an instruction thread somewhere about how to write your own codec profiles for the VC1 advanced codec standard, use the profile editor and do some tests, a VBR qualitybased 70 - 80 % quality full hd profile looks real nice directly out of Liquid.
  •  09-04-2009, 7:50 335551 in reply to 335541

    Re: HD timeline to the WEB

    Tomas

    Have you a link to that thread, I have looked but cannot find it.

    Mark

  •  09-04-2009, 7:58 335553 in reply to 335551

    Re: HD timeline to the WEB

    I found it, it was easiest done by sorting the old Liquid forum after views, this had number 10 or something, this where the days when wmp 10 was replaced with wmp 11 and no codec profiles was working any longer from any editing app on the entire market, seems like not only Liquid editors followed that thread.
  •  09-04-2009, 8:02 335555 in reply to 335553

    Re: HD timeline to the WEB

    Thanks Tomas, I will give it a try.

    Marc, I have Procoder I will give it a try and see which is best

    Thanks guys

    Mark

  •  09-04-2009, 8:03 335556 in reply to 335553

    Re: HD timeline to the WEB

    "I have several 8 minute videos in 1280x720 50p PAL"

    and you of course meant 25p .....

  •  09-04-2009, 20:10 335692 in reply to 335556

    Re: HD timeline to the WEB

    Why couldn't it be 720p 50p?  This is a standard format and yes I have streamed 50p before.

     A Note about WMV encoding as well.  Most (if not all) NLE use the core of Windows Media that pretty much everybody has.  There is really no such thing as a better WMV encoder.  There is a newer encoder base that Microsoft uses in it's expression encoder but this is more or less to multi-thread the encoding.  The thing that really makes WMV encoding is adjusting the profiles to fit what you need.  A WMV file from Premiere, Liquid or Vegas that uses the same encoding profile is going to look the same.  In fact the normal stand alone encoder you can get from Microsoft for free can create VC1 style WMV files with the same encoding quality found on HD-DVD discs.  The only reason why nobody human I know of ever really used it for that was because it was so darn slow.

    Personally I'm a fan of H264 streaming through Flash.

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