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Next gen Here??
Last post 11-19-2009, 10:03 by LewS. 44 replies.
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09-22-2009, 18:29 |
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astevens
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Hey guys, I'm a bit embarrassed but the file is actually a .sys rather than a .dll.
Problem is the same.
Dave... I tried a rename on the old file but cannot locate a corresponding windows asapi file. Actually the asapi64.sys file resides in the Windows 7 /WOW64 directory.
Anyway, I've renamed the file and I'm goring to see how it fares in the DVD mode without it.
Back in a few with the results.
Later,
Andy
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09-22-2009, 19:16 |
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astevens
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I renamed the original file, started LE and attempted to write DVD, twice in a row, and crashed the system twice in a row. Each time prior to crash, the system found a replacement for the original ASAPI64.SYS file, installed it, and attempted to function prior to crashing. Don't know where it was getting it from because according to a search of the system, the file simply does not exist... nada ... anywhere, yet it keeps popping back up. How do it know? and how does it do that?
Andy
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09-23-2009, 1:01 |
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09-23-2009, 15:33 |
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lasssman
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In the course of gettng Liquid to work in Vista 64, I found there was a way to solve this - but you need another system file already available and listed in the "LowerFilters" list.
Run "regedit.exe" from the "Run ..." line in the Windows Start menu.
In the regedit menu, click Find, and enter "Lowerfilters" (all one word). This should take you to an entry that includes LowerFilters, Upperfilters and some other stuff related to CD Rom drives. Double click on the Lowerfilters entry and see how many entries there are. Mine looked like this:
Afc ASAPI64 PxHlpa64
If there is more than one entry, delete the ASPI64 entry - it doesn't matter what you try to do with this file, it is incompatible with Windows Vista and Windows 7, you cannot use it - but Windows needs something to replace it. After deleting that entry my system looks like this:
Afc PxHlpa64
Click ok and close the regedit, then reboot.
If you only have the ASPI64 entry, you need to install some other program that adds its own compatible driver (I believe that if you install Nero, for example, you would see a new entry here)
Mileage may vary - but this has been working for me.
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11-03-2009, 23:37 |
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flip1943
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It seems to me that more work is being done on product development here than in Germany. The paucity of information - mainly confined (as Drake's remark in this thread) to what Next Gen isn't rather than when it is and when it can be expected - is doing Avid/Pinnacle absolutely no good at all. Liquid is now the least developed of the mainline apps and it's hardly surprising that at trade events apps like Edius and Vegas are getting the exposure, the reviews and the sales. If Pinnacle really intends to replace Liquid (and I'm beginning to doubt whether they actually intend to at all) then they need to make some interim announcement. If they don't, the cost of establishing NextGen in the marketplace is going to be huge. I'm on record as expressing my satisfaction with Liquid as an editing app but I rely on other apps to author DVDs and Blu-ray. In my view, until Microsoft stops supporting XP (the declared OS for Liquid) there's no overwhelming reason to have one program that does the lot - and far better to leave that market to giants like Adobe and concentrate on making the best, fastest and most reliable video editing program possible. My bottom line is this; if I'd known NextGen was so far behind I'd have taken up the offer to upgrade to MC - it's as simple as that.
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11-04-2009, 0:59 |
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Sef
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If I read this thread exectly as it is written down, then I hope that my XP system will last for a very long time.
If not, then I have to buy a new system with Windows 7 and a new Video Editor aswell.
That is not a fine look into the near future.
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11-04-2009, 17:02 |
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Sam the Sham
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Sef:
If I read this thread exectly as it is written down, then I hope that my XP system will last for a very long time.
If not, then I have to buy a new system with Windows 7 and a new Video Editor aswell.
That is not a fine look into the near future.
I installed Windows 7 pro on another drive and so far I REALLY LIKE IT.
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11-09-2009, 12:55 |
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Sylvain P
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I see that Windows 7 Pro and ultimate are offering a Windows XP Mode. You need to download it. Is someone with Windows 7 can try it and report if Liquid is running properly in this mode?
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11-10-2009, 11:08 |
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11-10-2009, 14:50 |
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BenoitM
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I'm facing a dilemma: what new laptop should I buy today that would run AL 7.2 on Win7 (XP compatibility mode) and nextgen when it comes ? I know the requirements for AL (ATI GPU preferably), but what about hardware requirements for Nextgen ??? Or should I just wait another year, to get Win7 SP1 & hopefully Nextgen on a matching platform ?
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11-10-2009, 16:58 |
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11-11-2009, 6:53 |
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steamage
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VE7AXO:
LewS:Releases of an existing product and creating an entirely new product from scratch (new code, new interface, new features, etc.) are two very different things. I don't think it is vaporware.
My current Liquid 7.2 does everything that I need for the near future and I for one am happy to wait and see what "NextGen" brings when it shows its head next year. I don't need to speculate and I do trust Lew's statement that it definitely is NOT vapourware.
This NextGen speculation (positive or negative) is fast becoming tiresome to read with no new input possible until some announcement is made by Avid. I suggest that we switch our discussions to more interesting and useful topics.
AL7.2 does everything I need it to, too, and even if NextGen had been released on time last year, I wouldn't have upgraded unless there was some really good reason. Come the day that I want to do more that AL7.2 allows (e.g. I need to work with AVCHD footage) I'll see what's on the market that's reliable (has had at least one major update, for example). If NextGen's not there or thereabouts, I'll buy something else instead. Chances are, NextGen will be as different from what I'm used to as any of the opposition, anyway.
If I was in that position today, I'd probably go for Edius because it works well on XP (so no need to upgrade a perfectly good PC), the wavelet-based intermediate codec is supposed to be very good quality and Vegas 9 is still giving trouble.
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11-15-2009, 21:20 |
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martinav
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steamage: VE7AXO:
LewS:Releases of an existing product and creating an entirely new product from scratch (new code, new interface, new features, etc.) are two very different things. I don't think it is vaporware.
My current Liquid 7.2 does everything that I need for the near future and I for one am happy to wait and see what "NextGen" brings when it shows its head next year. I don't need to speculate and I do trust Lew's statement that it definitely is NOT vapourware.
This NextGen speculation (positive or negative) is fast becoming tiresome to read with no new input possible until some announcement is made by Avid. I suggest that we switch our discussions to more interesting and useful topics.
AL7.2 does everything I need it to, too, and even if NextGen had been released on time last year, I wouldn't have upgraded unless there was some really good reason. Come the day that I want to do more that AL7.2 allows (e.g. I need to work with AVCHD footage) I'll see what's on the market that's reliable (has had at least one major update, for example). If NextGen's not there or thereabouts, I'll buy something else instead. Chances are, NextGen will be as different from what I'm used to as any of the opposition, anyway.
If I was in that position today, I'd probably go for Edius because it works well on XP (so no need to upgrade a perfectly good PC), the wavelet-based intermediate codec is supposed to be very good quality and Vegas 9 is still giving trouble.
Unfortunately, Avid has not placed enough resources to develop this product to keep up with the market. It has been what... two years? Still no tangible evidence of "nextgen". I do wish them luck. I admire their ambition to develop a new product from scratch. I'm just afraid that even if they do come up with something good, that it may not be able to keep up with the market. If Avid cannot place enough resource to develop the product quickly enough from the start, how much will they be willing to put into it to keep it up do date? Liquid was the best product I have ever seen in the prosumer space. It is so unfortunate it was placed in the hands of a company that is not interested in making that market a priority.
Rod
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11-17-2009, 4:52 |
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Bike
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Unfortunately, Avid has not placed enough resources to develop this
product to keep up with the market. It has been what... two years?
Still no tangible evidence of "nextgen". I do wish them luck. I
admire their ambition to develop a new product from scratch. I'm just
afraid that even if they do come up with something good, that it may
not be able to keep up with the market. If Avid cannot place enough
resource to develop the product quickly enough from the start, how much
will they be willing to put into it to keep it up do date? Liquid was
the best product I have ever seen in the prosumer space. It is so
unfortunate it was placed in the hands of a company that is not
interested in making that market a priority. If you think developing a new piece of software as complex as a video editing suite is not a huge undertaking, just look at Microsoft, with all their resources, and the problems they have. If Avid put out a product with as many problems (and I think they did with the original Liquid 7), they could be out of business in no time. Microsoft has no competition in the PC market (to speak of anyway) and you have to have a software operating system to run a PC, but you don't need video editing software unless you want to edit video. Just a thought or MHO.
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11-17-2009, 10:27 |
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Sef
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I agree.
You said things that we are saying for almost two years. No-one can make me believe in a real effort to come up with something when a lot of key-players were sent away, or, they resigned from the team themselves.
Even when they ware busy to produce a complete new NLE, then it would not take two years to come up with something. A lot of functional programming is already available. One can concentrate on new OS's and new video formats, but the base is already there.
And, I never asked for a new interface. Doing the job is what I want to do, not wondering how beautiful the screen looks like...
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